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Old January 27 2014, 03:31 AM   #1
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Bajoran Resistance, Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

What do think of the Bajoran Resistance, were they Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?
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Old January 27 2014, 05:37 AM   #2
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Re: Bajoran Resistance, Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

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What do think of the Bajoran Resistance, were they Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?
What's wrong with calling them resistance movements? It works for the French Resistance, the Polish Resistance, the Czech Resistance, the Dutche Resistance, and numerous other movements to resist occupation by Germany.
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Old January 27 2014, 07:28 AM   #3
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What do think of the Bajoran Resistance, were they Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?
What's wrong with calling them resistance movements? It works for the French Resistance, the Polish Resistance, the Czech Resistance, the Dutche Resistance, and numerous other movements to resist occupation by Germany.
Because that's no fun and there would be no thread then.

Seriously I think its interesting to explore the morality of the Bajoran resistence and terms like terrorist and freedom fighter stir more debate then other more neutral terms and it is fair because the resistance had called both labels during the series.
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Old January 27 2014, 07:55 AM   #4
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Re: Bajoran Resistance, Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

The members of the Resistance would see themselves as Freedom Fighters. The Cardassians would judge them as Terrorists.

Its all a matter of perspective.
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Old January 27 2014, 08:12 AM   #5
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Re: Bajoran Resistance, Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

Both.

Terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology (in spite of its usage in post-9/11 America as a generic term for "bad thing"). It is the use of violence for political purposes, usually (but not exclusively) directed against non-combatants or third parties, in order to induce into the enemy and/or the enemy's populace a sense of fear and despair.

Terrorism may be used for libertarian ends, or it may be used for oppressive ends. The Bajoran Resistance was clearly a liberation movement, but it also clearly engaged in acts of terrorism. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Old January 27 2014, 08:39 AM   #6
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Re: Bajoran Resistance, Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

Were they terrorists at all then? Did the Bajorans ever direct their attacks at non-combatants and/or third parties? I know they didn't avoid them, but directed towards? And were their attacks ever to induce fear and despair? I thought their attacks were almost always to key facilities?

They were freedom fighters. They may also have been terrorists, but they were not exclusively terrorists.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:23 AM   #7
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^ There was the episode "The Darkness and the Light"; where a Cardassian claimed that Kira killed both civilians and soldiers.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:44 AM   #8
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Yeah, I know that they definitely hit targets that killed civilians and or collaborators, but I don't recall them ever hitting purely civilians targets. The motives for their attacks were never just to instill fear, I only recall them targeting installations or Cardassians of some importance.
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Old January 27 2014, 11:39 AM   #9
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^ You're right. I don't recall them ever explicitly admitting to attacking Cardassian civilians.

I just finished a rewatched the episode. Here is an excerpt of Kira's conversation with Silarain Prin.

"None of you belonged on Bajor. It wasn't your world. For fifty years you raped our planet, and you killed our people. You lived on our land and you took the food out of our mouths, and I don't care whether you held a phaser in your hand or you ironed shirts for a living. You were all guilty and you were all legitimate targets!"

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Old January 27 2014, 12:55 PM   #10
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As others have said both, and it does depend on your perspective.
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Old January 27 2014, 04:37 PM   #11
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Re: Bajoran Resistance, Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

From dictionary.com:

terrorism
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

freedom fighter
a fighter for freedom, especially a person who battles against established forces of tyranny and dictatorship.

I would say between the two "freedom fighter" is a better fit.
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Old January 27 2014, 05:30 PM   #12
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I'm sure the Bajoran's would consider themselves freedom fighters, but the Cardassians would consider them terrorists.
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Old January 27 2014, 06:52 PM   #13
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From dictionary.com:

terrorism
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

freedom fighter
a fighter for freedom, especially a person who battles against established forces of tyranny and dictatorship.

I would say between the two "freedom fighter" is a better fit.
The definitions illustrate the problematic nature of the question. Although often presented as an either/or, terrorist, freedom fighter, and indeed, resistance are not mutually exclusive. Terrorism reflects methods. Freedom fighter reflects depth of involvement. Resistance reflects broad social phenomena. Aspects of the Bajoran Resistance could have employed terrorist methods. The Shakaar resistance cell was undoubtedly part of the resistance. OTOH, resistance was likely a broad phenomena, sometimes passively aggressive, sometimes violent. Winn's activities could easily be described as resistance, though they might not rise to the level of being actively involved in trying to free Bajor.
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Old January 27 2014, 06:55 PM   #14
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They're classified as freedom fighters ... because they won. If the Cardassians had crushed them, they'd just be some terrorist group. (History is written by the victors.)


YMMV ... depending on whose side you're on.
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Old January 27 2014, 07:00 PM   #15
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I'm sure the Bajoran's would consider themselves freedom fighters, but the Cardassians would consider them terrorists.
Kira referred to herself as a terrorist in multiple episodes, though. The one I can recall right off the bat is "Defiant" from Season Three.
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