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Old October 16 2013, 11:56 PM   #1
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LOL Sobbing what? DVD/BR subtitles question

I see around the net a picture of Spock crying with the extremely funny subtitles "sobbing MATHEMATICALLY"

for example, here http://memes.com/img/69073

Must be from the Naked Time

I dont have the discs, so I ask to anyone who does, is that really in the discs?
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Old October 17 2013, 12:05 AM   #2
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It's Naked Time all right, when he has that long complicated camera move scene wrapping around him, alone in the briefing room. It was the last shot of the day and everyone was wanting to leave before overtime kicked in, and Nimoy knew he had to get it right the first time.

"Two... four... six... eight... (cries)"
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Old October 17 2013, 12:37 AM   #3
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Re: LOL Sobbing what? DVD/BR subtitles question

"Two...four...six! Six! Six times six...(sob)...six times six...."
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Old October 17 2013, 01:22 AM   #4
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"Two...four...six! Six! Six times six...(sob)...six times six...."


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Old October 17 2013, 01:28 AM   #5
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Re: LOL Sobbing what? DVD/BR subtitles question

I think Nimoy talks about that Briefing Room scene in I Am Not Spock, or else it was some interview I read. It was a pretty big deal to him and he really thought the scene was great. He saw it as serious, thoughtful, sensitive, artistic. And to a lot of fans it certainly was/is.

On the other hand, a non-fan could be forgiven for thinking that Nimoy had felt confined by Spock's usual personality and, when he had a chance to emote freely, he went nuts with it and chewed the scenery.
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Old October 17 2013, 02:23 AM   #6
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On the other hand, a non-fan could be forgiven for thinking that Nimoy had felt confined by Spock's usual personality and, when he had a chance to emote freely, he went nuts with it and chewed the scenery.
And really, why not? Emotions are a big part of any actor's toolbelt and so for any actor to play Spock requires an incredible amount of discipline and control to play an unemotional character without boring the audience. The chance to switch techniques and delve back into the different skills he had acquired must have been welcomed by him when the occasion presented itself.
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Old October 17 2013, 02:28 AM   #7
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And Shatner rarely left him any scenery to chew on.
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Old October 17 2013, 02:40 AM   #8
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And Shatner rarely left him any scenery to chew on.
What choice did he have? Playing against a non-emotional character leaves a lot of extra scenery that needs a-chewing!
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Old October 17 2013, 02:54 AM   #9
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I thought that scene was a little ridiculous the first time I saw it, but the second time I understood the heart of it. I think Nimoy did it perfectly!
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Old October 17 2013, 03:21 AM   #10
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Moments like this one were special for the character of Spock. Abrams' Star Trek had him go through a wide span of emotions, so that sense of the character was lost, but that's the difference between television and movies.
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Old October 17 2013, 01:19 PM   #11
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There was always a little something "off" and unsettling when Nimoy's Spock went emotional. It reinforced that he was still an alien, and that there was a reason that Vulcan's kept their feelings bottled up. Mark Lenard (and Patrick Stewart channeling his character) also pulled this off.

This is what disappoints me with Laurence Luckinbill's performance as an "emotional Vulcan" in STV...he didn't capture any of that. Take off the ears, you're just playing a human.
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Old October 17 2013, 02:12 PM   #12
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Re: LOL Sobbing what? DVD/BR subtitles question

I've always been able to hear (or imagine) through the sobs that he is saying "Six times six is thirty-six," so I guess that's mathematical sobbing.
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Old October 17 2013, 02:26 PM   #13
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Re: LOL Sobbing what? DVD/BR subtitles question

But can anyone confirm "sobbing mathematically" are really in the disc subtitles?
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Old October 17 2013, 05:43 PM   #14
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Re: LOL Sobbing what? DVD/BR subtitles question

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But can anyone confirm "sobbing mathematically" are really in the disc subtitles?
For what it's worth, Netflix (which I think does its own subtitling) doesn't have that cc comment.
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