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Old October 14 2013, 05:26 AM   #16
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

Only if they show him dying in the most horrible of ways...I've never liked that character and find his two episodes boring as hell.
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Old October 14 2013, 05:40 AM   #17
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

To me his character in TOS was kind of "meh". No realy appeal other than comic relief.

I think the name-drop in STiD was enough to please trek fans, along with the tribble (I finally saw the tribble on Scotty's desk in the Delta Vega outpost for the first time during my last rewatch of ST2009) and the Gorn reference were enough.

I'm hoping for something a bit more original. I don't mind if they use pre-existing races like the Borg or Cardassians, but I'd like to see something other than the "revenge, going to destroy Earth" theme.
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Old October 14 2013, 05:55 AM   #18
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

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When TNG first aired, I remember reading an article about a potential episode plot that would have brought back Harry Mudd. He was to have saved the Enterprise somehow, saying "This ones for ol' Kirk and Spock!". Unfortunately, Roger Carmel died in 1986, so obviously the episode was never written.
Actually, it was RE-written - into "The Neutral Zone".
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Old October 14 2013, 06:33 AM   #19
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

Wait...that doesn't make sense. TNG was announced October 10, 1986 and Carmel died a month later. They'd barely have started pre-production by the time he passed, so it seems really unlikely they'd have actually written a script for the character.
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Old October 14 2013, 06:45 AM   #20
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Wait...that doesn't make sense. TNG was announced October 10, 1986 and Carmel died a month later. They'd barely have started pre-production by the time he passed, so it seems really unlikely they'd have actually written a script for the character.
As I said, they wanted to write a script with Mudd. I didn't say they actually wrote it. But surely you don't think writers weren't scheming plots before TNG was actually green-lighted...
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Old October 14 2013, 07:01 AM   #21
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

I toyed with this idea in a single post in another thread a while back. My choice for a film version of Harry was Jack Black. Though Seinfeld's Wayne Knight would likely be closer to Carmel's style.
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Old October 14 2013, 07:13 AM   #22
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

I remember when a Mudd type character showed up in Stargate. I was like.. I'm over this. And I'm still over it.

If we see him in the background of a space station that Our Heroes are passing through, perhaps with furry critter held aloft to admirers and he is never ever mentioned that would be fine. Or not.

^I'll say this though, I'd cave on my Mudd resistance if it was Jack Black
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Old October 14 2013, 10:33 AM   #23
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

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I watched the first few minutes of Mudd's Women earlier today, and could see how Mudd might have made for an intro sequence like the Nibiru. Or maybe instead of? But I'm not missing him. He could be an aspect of a story but not THE story.

Call it: Star Trek Into Muddy Women
The chase through the asteroid field at the start of "Mudd's Woman" would work well - Mudd in the fast little ship from ID, zipping between asteroids, and the gigantic Enterprise in chase, blasting them out of the way with phaser strikes.
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Old October 14 2013, 01:36 PM   #24
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

I don't think Mudd as shown in TOS would be appropriate in nuTrek.
nuKirk would probably admire PrimeMudd
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Old October 14 2013, 05:29 PM   #25
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

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When TNG first aired, I remember reading an article about a potential episode plot that would have brought back Harry Mudd. He was to have saved the Enterprise somehow, saying "This ones for ol' Kirk and Spock!". Unfortunately, Roger Carmel died in 1986, so obviously the episode was never written.
Actually, it was RE-written - into "The Neutral Zone".
Don't you mean "The Outrageous Okona?"

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I don't think Mudd as shown in TOS would be appropriate in nuTrek.
nuKirk would probably admire PrimeMudd
That or bang his daughter, which would inevitably result in a conflict with Carol...
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Old October 15 2013, 01:15 AM   #26
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

Harry Mudd sucked... but Roger Carmel was the shit.
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Old October 15 2013, 03:07 AM   #27
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

Not as a villain, but Mudd could work very well as a side character who gets caught up in some random adventure with the Enterprise crew.
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Old October 15 2013, 03:50 AM   #28
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

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When TNG first aired, I remember reading an article about a potential episode plot that would have brought back Harry Mudd. He was to have saved the Enterprise somehow, saying "This ones for ol' Kirk and Spock!". Unfortunately, Roger Carmel died in 1986, so obviously the episode was never written.
Actually, it was RE-written - into "The Neutral Zone".
Don't you mean "The Outrageous Okona?"
No. I mean "The Neutral Zone".
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Old October 15 2013, 04:23 AM   #29
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No, I really want them to come up with something original, at the current rate, in two films time the crew of the enterprise will be slingshotting round the sun to return to the year 2017 to save the white rhino from extinction, hilarity will ensue when Mr Spock encounters some hipsters on the subway, and Chekov gets caught breaking into a navy base and mistaken for a taliban.
This.

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Actually, it was RE-written - into "The Neutral Zone".
Don't you mean "The Outrageous Okona?"
No. I mean "The Neutral Zone".
I guess he was supposed to be one of the dead people or something?
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Old October 15 2013, 04:51 AM   #30
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Re: Would you like to see Harry Mudd in the new movies?

^ Yep. The character of Ralph Offenhouse was created when it became impossible to use Mudd.
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