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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?
I hope so. 12 21.43%
I hope not. 44 78.57%
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Old October 17 2013, 06:44 PM   #31
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Re: The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

A nu-MU movie: STAR TREK INTO REALLY DARK DARKNESS
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Old October 19 2013, 02:23 AM   #32
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Re: The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

- I'm a TOS fan first and foremost (been watching since 1969).
- I LOVED both ST09 and STID
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The above said, I REALLY hope that with the third one, they do a completely original story that doesn't rely on main elements from a previous TOS episode or film.

(And IMO STID was more rooted in 'Space Seed' then in 'STII:TWoK' and again, while it did go in original directions, again, I would really like to see a new 'Star Trek' story in that Universe, with no 24th Century elements bled over from the 'Prime Universe' ala ST09; or the 'Space Seed' and TWoK ala STID.)
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Old October 19 2013, 02:56 AM   #33
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Re: The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

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I could dig a MU movie, as long as they gave equal time to the good guys.
This is the MU. There ARE no good guys. That's kind of the point.

(srsly, I wouldn't want any kind of crossover. Just a full-out Terran Empire slugfest.)
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Old October 19 2013, 01:23 PM   #34
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(srsly, I wouldn't want any kind of crossover. Just a full-out Terran Empire slugfest.)
Problem is, that wouldn't make any money at the box office.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:16 PM   #35
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Re: The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

^ It could, if done right.
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Old October 19 2013, 03:19 PM   #36
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The Wormhole wrote: View Post
George Steinbrenner wrote: View Post
(srsly, I wouldn't want any kind of crossover. Just a full-out Terran Empire slugfest.)
Problem is, that wouldn't make any money at the box office.
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^ It could, if done right.
I think it would need to be some type of crossover. But, I simply don't think we've known these characters long enough for a Mirror Universe entry to be satisfying.

It would make for an interesting novel, if the restriction on writing in the Abramsverse is ever lifted.
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Old October 19 2013, 07:57 PM   #37
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Re: The Mirror Universe in Star Trek XIII?

In the nuverse, couldn't the mirrorverse be the Primeline? What a hellava bone that would be, somehow getting a little peek at the ol' stomping grounds.[/wishful thinking]
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Old October 19 2013, 08:03 PM   #38
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In the nuverse, couldn't the mirrorverse be the Primeline?
Eh?

Just like the prime timeline - the 'regular' Trek universe - is unchanged and still exists, so does its associated Mirror universe. They could show that one in a future Abrams film, or do an Abrams-MU.

As for how an Abrams-MU would look, or what its origin would be? Could be anything. Doesn't even have to involve a MU-Nero, although it probably would.

And for purposes of this discussion I am completely ignoring the MU as depicted in the recent Abrams comics. Mainly because of this:

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Old October 20 2013, 02:06 AM   #39
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The problem with the "it's just Bones and Scotty telling a story" theory is that they know too much about the MU if true. There's no reason they should know the MU's humans run something called the Terran Empire, or that Spock Prime once visited a universe ruled by the Empire. That the Empire's officers are all armed with daggers and that they advance in rank by murdering their superiors.

But then you have the problem that the elderly Spock presented in this story clearly isn't Spock Prime, meaning both he and Nero must come from a different universe that is pretty similar to the Prime Universe.

That entire comic story was a mess, and that's before you get to the record number of art errors in it...
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Old October 20 2013, 10:08 AM   #40
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I don't think they should go anywhere near any mirror or time travel stuff, I think it would start to alienate they very viewers they've managed to bag in the last 2 instalments
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Old October 20 2013, 03:36 PM   #41
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The problem with the "it's just Bones and Scotty telling a story" theory is that they know too much about the MU if true.
Assuming they're just making it up as they go along, they don't "know" anything. They're telling a fairytale, nothing more. It could be anything. It's no more far-fetched than, say, the existence of "Earth Prime" in DC Comics, which was basically a copy of our own Earth where most DC characters were fictional comic heroes.
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Old October 20 2013, 10:04 PM   #42
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The problem with the "it's just Bones and Scotty telling a story" theory is that they know too much about the MU if true.
Assuming they're just making it up as they go along, they don't "know" anything. They're telling a fairytale, nothing more.
Then they're imaginations are remarkably accurate to reality.
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Old October 20 2013, 10:05 PM   #43
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^ In an infinite multiverse? Anything is possible.
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Old October 22 2013, 01:02 AM   #44
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George Steinbrenner wrote: View Post
^ In an infinite multiverse? Anything is possible.
Forgive me, I mean no offense, but the only thing I feel when I read that is "Ugh, the improbabilities made me throw up in my mouth."

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Old October 22 2013, 08:55 PM   #45
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I don't want the Mirror Universe in the next film because I love it and it has an awesome potential. Don't waste it early.

It's too big of a leap to just do out of the blue in the third film. It's a story that needs to be set in world you're familiar with. Let's get to know what these incarnations of the characters are up to, and then pop to their mirror universe counterparts. It's also too amazing, let the Star Trek regular universe exhaust its own amazingness first. If you want a MU story right now, you'd get a better one if it is about a MU of Earth's present (without an explicit link to Star Trek) than of another Star Trek MU story.

Scratch that, we desperately need the new film to be about Harry Mudd selling whales to the Mirror Borg with a help of a time-travelling Dr. Watson. I won't lie if I say I would watch it with a grin.
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