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Old August 7 2014, 06:21 PM   #1
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Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

Apologies if this has come up before!

So we know that Khan and Harewood work out a deal wherein Khan heals Harewood's daughter using his blood in exchange for Harewood bombing the S31 facility.

A few days ago I started to wonder whether Khan made Harewood's daughter sick to begin with. It's certainly in keeping with his character, and it seems more likely that Khan would set the situation up from the outset than that there would be an S31 person who conveniently had a sick daughter that Khan was in a unique position to help.

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Old August 7 2014, 06:39 PM   #2
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

That's definitely in character for Khan, yeah.

His constant carping about his "crew" and "beloved wife" notwithstanding, I'm standing by my position that Khan, as an Augment, is without human compassion, and thus deliberately making a child sick so he could blackmail her father later is definitely something Khan would do.
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Old August 7 2014, 07:03 PM   #3
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

I don't really see his feelings for his crew as being pertinent; they're augments. Harewood's family is "inferior" and thus inconsequential.

Kind of makes me wonder how much differently TWoK might have played out if Marla had survived, though.
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Old August 7 2014, 09:08 PM   #4
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

This question defies resolution with me.

Is Khan capable of causing the illness and creating the situation? Without a doubt.

Could it have happened just as easily without Khan's involvement? Of Course.

Would Khan try to avoid taking the risk of potentially revealing his whereabouts or plans by being the cause? Yes.

Could Khan successfully evade suspicion long enough to poison the daughter? Yes.

Is Khan capable of poisoning a mans daughter and then looking her father in the eye and sending him to his death? Totally.

Short of a canonical explanation, there is no way to be sure.
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Old August 7 2014, 09:30 PM   #5
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

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Kind of makes me wonder how much differently TWoK might have played out if Marla had survived, though.
Khan probably would've just kicked Kirk in the nuts and been satisfied.
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Old August 8 2014, 02:04 PM   #6
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

While I suppose it could work as a means of showing how calculating Khan can be, I personally doubt it. More than likely he reviewed whatever info he could about the personnel assigned to the Kelvin Library in search of a weak link he could exploit, someone who could be manipulated into doing his bidding. An officer with a terminally ill child turned up and bingo, plan can go ahead.
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Old August 8 2014, 03:53 PM   #7
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

I can definitely see it playing out that way...but I can also see it playing out that rather than find a weak link (either because he couldn't or couldn't be bothered) he opted to create one.
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Old August 17 2014, 07:20 AM   #8
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

Singh causing Harewood's daughter's illness strikes me as a little too convoluted. If for no other reason than a man whose daughter only recently fell ill might not have lost hope yet. No, Harewood's daughter likely would have been battling Illness for some time. The man was desperate. Enough to do anything.
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Old August 17 2014, 09:13 AM   #9
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

It seems less convoluted than Khan stumbling upon him...

How long was Khan thawed out for? He may have had months to plan this.
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Old August 17 2014, 10:20 AM   #10
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

Couldn't have been much more than a year since they didn't find Botany Bay until after Vulcan was destroyed.
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Old August 17 2014, 02:38 PM   #11
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

And he probably spent most of that time designing and overseeing the construction of the Vengeance.
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Old August 17 2014, 10:38 PM   #12
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While part of me likes the Machiavellian aspect of Khan also making the girl sick, I didn't get the impression from the film that was the case.
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Old August 17 2014, 11:46 PM   #13
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Re: Did Khan target Harewood's daughter?

I doubt the filmmakers intended it either; if it even occurred to them I could see them concluding that making the girl sick would push Khan even further into the land of irredeemable characters than he already was and discarding the concept in the process.
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Old August 18 2014, 12:10 AM   #14
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Kind of makes me wonder how much differently TWoK might have played out if Marla had survived, though.
Khan probably would've just kicked Kirk in the nuts and been satisfied.
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