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Old May 15 2014, 02:30 AM   #436
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Re: Supernatural Season 9 (Spoilers)

Death and God are kinda the same thing "conceptually". They act brotherly to each other to say the least. So it's possible that they draw from the same labour pool... Reapers take souls to Heaven and Hell. If the Reapers who take souls to Heaven are Angels, then are the Reapers who take souls to hell Demons?
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Old May 15 2014, 03:09 AM   #437
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Might be how it works now, but still a massive retcon.

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^I would love to have Death show up, theme song and all, and reap Metatron. That would be awesome.
Yes! Metatron droning on about how he's the smartest guy in the room, he's the new God, Castiel's a fool, blah blah blah... then you get just the opening strains of that song and Death appears. He's all calm, like "What have you children done to this world?" and just grabs Metatron by the arm. No angel light, no smarmy one-liner, just bam, down like the punk he is. "Oh Death" indeed.

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Looking up Reapers on the supernatural wiki it lists them as a subset of Angel with the citation being *THIS EPISODE* so basically they just threw out everything that previously existed about Reapers and now say they're Angels.

That's the problem with the show running so long and switching off showrunners so often. You get new people in who just want to conform it to their ideas. Happens in comics all the time.
Bah, bah I say. *sigh*
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Old May 15 2014, 09:40 AM   #438
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They've done the same thing to Metatron that they did to the Leviathans-- turned him into a comedy sketch. Darn it! Lost the bowling tournament!
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Old May 15 2014, 04:31 PM   #439
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Does anyone even remember the plot of this season? Metatron kicked the angels out of Heaven to fumigate or something. Now there's a Angel turf war on Earth where Castiel, Metatron, and Bowling Guy are fighting over something.

I honestly have no idea what's going on or why I (or even Sam and Dean) should care about any of it.
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Old May 15 2014, 04:47 PM   #440
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CW to take another stab at a Supernatural spin off
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Old May 15 2014, 05:10 PM   #441
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This isn't the one based in Chicago, I hope.
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Old May 15 2014, 05:12 PM   #442
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Bloodlines is dead. This would be something new.
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Old May 15 2014, 05:18 PM   #443
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Supernatural: Angels & Demons?
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Old May 15 2014, 05:23 PM   #444
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Supernatural: Angels & Demons?
Don't even joke about that!
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Old May 15 2014, 05:26 PM   #445
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Does anyone even remember the plot of this season? Metatron kicked the angels out of Heaven to fumigate or something. Now there's a Angel turf war on Earth where Castiel, Metatron, and Bowling Guy are fighting over something.

I honestly have no idea what's going on or why I (or even Sam and Dean) should care about any of it.
Yes, and it's been pretty easy to keep track of, too.

As for the spin-off, I can honestly say that unless it's about the rebuilding of the Men of Letters, I'm not going to be all that interested in anything they put out. It's just too obvious of a choice to ignore it; and if they can't see that, then I've lost any faith I have in them producing anything else worth watching.
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Old May 15 2014, 05:29 PM   #446
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Does anyone even remember the plot of this season? Metatron kicked the angels out of Heaven to fumigate or something. Now there's a Angel turf war on Earth where Castiel, Metatron, and Bowling Guy are fighting over something.

I honestly have no idea what's going on or why I (or even Sam and Dean) should care about any of it.
Yes, and it's been pretty easy to keep track of, too.
Enlighten me. Perhaps it's simply lack of interest, but I truly don't know what's going on with Metatron and the Angel Civil War.
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Old May 15 2014, 05:39 PM   #447
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Last season, Metatron revealed (when he was being interrogated by Naomi) how much he hated angels, how special he felt having been chosen as God's scribe, and how upset he was when God abandoned him and the rest of creation. When that happened, he knew the other archangels would try to steal all the knowledge he possessed, so he fled Heaven and hid on Earth. Since then, his hatred has grown, and now he wants revenge.

To see that revenge through, he used Castiel's naitivity to put together a grandiose spell that would eject all of the angels from Heaven and lock the gates. Which he clearly did, leading to the Fall.

Now, all most of the angels want is to return home, but many are conflicted because unlike the more enlightened ones -- such as Castiel -- who have experienced a semblance of free will, they don't know what to do. Those strong enough began putting together factions, each with the goal of breaking back into Heaven and exacting their own revenge on Metatron (and, in turn, several of them also desiring to take over as God).

As to why the Winchester's want to see this over and done with? Angels are dicks. Many of them are as bad, if not worse, than the other monsters inhabiting Earth, and that's sort of their schtick. Even worse, with the Heavenly gates closed, the dead are unable to pass on to Heaven, and are stuck here, with the very real possibility of them going mad and becoming dangerous ghosts. So even if they didn't give a fuck about the angels, there's that.

And during all this, Abbadon returned and was trying to take over Hell. It was wholly unrelated to everything else that was going on, but linked in that the only weapon that could kill her also has the potential to kill Metatron (and anything else). So, even though the war over Hell was unrelated, it lead to the Winchester's ace-in-the-hole for finally putting an end to Metatron.
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Old May 16 2014, 09:36 AM   #448
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^^ Castiel's Nativity? I guess he should be God. Speaking of which, where's Jesus during all of this? We got to see Cain-- how about some other heavy hitters, like Abel or Noah or Adam and Eve?

Good. There are a number of great possibilities for a spinoff. They should log on places like here and listen.
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Old May 16 2014, 11:47 PM   #449
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I'd want it to be overseas. I'm thinking Hong Kong based. You get away with english-speaking characters since a lot of people in HK do speak English. You have a large Asian community in Vancouver so you can find guest stars and actors to fit the parts as well. Then you get delve more into monsters of Asian mythologies since HK is a huge port and you could have creatures from China/India/Japan/etc... folklore show up.
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That could certainly work.
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