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Old November 22 2013, 01:30 AM   #331
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That TNG tea set would have been a commercially available product. I recall them. I think my local Target sold them. But not a Star Trek collectible until it was featured on the show.
They had a few different mugs/teacups used through out the series. I know one version commonly seen when Picard ordered tea was commercially available, they were Bodum brand glasses. My mom had a set in the early-90's.
Ex. http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Bodum-Glas...-/291021172115
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Old November 22 2013, 01:45 AM   #332
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Believe me, I am sympathetic to your point of view. It's like, say, those blue plastic communicator walkie-talkie toys from ages ago. I guess to make sure that stupid kids knew which show they were from, they had Star Trek emblazoned on the front of them. I always hated stuff like that, too.

I was involved in a comic book series in the early 80's. I'd met one friends' brother around this time, who was some kind of marketing moron..uh, I mean wizard. He was trying like mad to get us going on having the series' name printed on sunglasses as a promotional tie-in. What in holy hell sunglasses had to do with this series was, and is, beyond me.
Well, I'm glad I'm not alone in my perception, as far as the marketing goes. What a shame I don't have the means, or gumption, to start my own STAR TREK Upscale Merchandise Company ... no porcelain Lenny's filled with cooking sherri, here!
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Old November 22 2013, 01:50 AM   #333
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What a shame I don't have the means, or gumption, to start my own STAR TREK Upscale Merchandise Company ... no porcelain Lenny's filled with cooking sherri, here!
Yeah! You, I'm sure, would at least have a porcelain Riker!
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Old November 22 2013, 01:53 AM   #334
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Last time I overanalzyed a particular subject it was for the better or would you have preferred that fans would continue to misinterpret a conjectural CGI reproduction of the TOS hangar bay and its markings for the real thing?
Anyone who knows me knows I'm interested in accuracy which is why I invite evidence to the contrary. The only reason the color hangar photos seemed persuasive was because they were scans from a magazine and not clear enough to see how CG looking they actually were.

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It's also possible the airlock staging area set was designed to service both the top personnel hatch and the airlock below, even if it doesn't make sense with the exterior of the miniature.
Upon rereading the TMP novelization (partly or mostly based on the screenplay?) I doubt that:
Sadly, the novelization differs from the film in so many ways it's not really a valid point of comparison.

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I don't know if any of this footage was actually shot, but apparently their arrival on the upper saucer (scene not in film):
The scripts I have don't feature any scenes between those of the crew exiting the bridge (scene 305) and appearing on the hull (scene 306 "Wing Walk"), so it's pretty safe to assume no such interior ship action was filmed.

The shot of them emerging onto the hull WAS in the film, of course, just not the angle you posted, but a long shot extended by a matte painting.
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Old November 22 2013, 01:57 AM   #335
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Well, I don't know where the purple cloud comes from but it's in the Topps card set for The Motion Picture.

The Space Intruder card is the exact same effect. It has the same texture. I wonder where that came from, it looks like the fibers from some kind of material put under a microscope.

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Old November 22 2013, 03:44 AM   #336
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Regarding the issue of sci fi franchise tie-in recipes causing bowel problems....in 1979 I had a Star Wars activity book with a recipe for Skywalker Scrunchies. I couldn't get enough of them then, and when I dug up the recipe online several years back and made them myself, they passed the test of time. No bowel issues to speak of.

Look 'em up and try 'em out...they're addictive. (I need to find that recipe again....)
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Old November 22 2013, 04:12 AM   #337
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Sci fi franchise tie-in recipes causing bowel problems

Now that'd be a thread title for the ages!
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Old November 22 2013, 10:49 AM   #338
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So true. I used to go to my local mall and see this same square-standing-on-one-corner display shelf unit (seen here in The Wrath of Khan) decorated in the courtyard.



Stupid me, when the mall had closed down about ten years ago, I should have inquired into purchasing it...
I almost mentioned that. Later, it appears in Tasha's cabin ("The Naked Now").

While not high-end, we had a chain of Granny May stores in the 80s, in Australia, and they were selling those clear plastic beverage containers, with the spiral straws wrapped around the outside, which I finally noticed (in the VHS release) was on the waitress's drinks tray when McCoy was seeking a flight to Genesis in ST III.

The sticker around the top I added myself, cut down from freebie stickers handed out on premiere night.


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Old November 22 2013, 10:56 AM   #339
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I seem to recall there was a satin TMP jacket with the Enterprise on the back which was lit with LEDs.
On the back cover of STARLOG, yeah? I think it may have been based on a production crew jacket, similar to that one guy in the SF tram scene who appears for a frame or two. It was probably forty bucks or more, so it WAS pretty high end.

Not compared to the light saber that was advertised on the back of FANTASTIC FILMS ($375 I think?) but not chump change either.

I think a vfx guy on TMP was involved in the jacket, but I don't recall who. Might have been one of the electronics guys from Apogee.
Did some rummaging and found this:

http://starlogged.blogspot.com/2012/...ty-jacket.html

Light up one was $95!

I chuckled at the suggestion that it was "perfect for discos".

While on the subject of "duty jackets" - I always liked the one they wore for the visit to V'ger.
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Old November 22 2013, 12:22 PM   #340
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The shot of them emerging onto the hull WAS in the film, of course, just not the angle you posted, but a long shot extended by a matte painting.
If that was actual live-action footage, where did they shoot this from?
To get this kind of shot they must have been at quite some distance and up on a water tower or something. IIRC, they used stop-motion miniature dolls or something like that and then combined that with the static matte painting.

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Old November 22 2013, 12:45 PM   #341
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The shot of them emerging onto the hull WAS in the film, of course, just not the angle you posted, but a long shot extended by a matte painting.
If that was actual live-action footage, where did they shoot this from?
To get this kind of shot they must have been at quite some distance and up on a water tower or something. IIRC, they used stop-motion miniature dolls or something like that and then combined that with the static matte painting.

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Unlikely, at best. Phil Tippet's "Go-Motion" was still years away from development. The motion of the characters was entirely too fluid and natural to have been animated figures.
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Old November 22 2013, 01:13 PM   #342
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Soundstages are big. The shot could've been taken from a camera in the rafters on the opposite end of the stage. Or if they needed to be even farther away, they could've set up the hull piece outdoors and filmed from the roof of a nearby stage.
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Well, I don't know where the purple cloud comes from but it's in the Topps card set for The Motion Picture.

The Space Intruder card is the exact same effect. It has the same texture. I wonder where that came from, it looks like the fibers from some kind of material put under a microscope.
The fact that the same effect is in different products could mean that the effect was made by the studio and not by the third party companies making the various merchandise. It would be nice if it was one of the abandoned tests for V'ger's cloud. I'd like to see again the viewmaster version (which was in 3D) but it's too difficult for me to access the original slides now.

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Old November 22 2013, 03:52 PM   #344
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No, that "cloud" image looks to me like some kind of magnified textile, something like a shag carpet or maybe a microscopic image of some kind of cloth. It would only suggest a cloud as a still image. So I suspect it was created by the makers of those photo books out of some bit of image reference they had on hand.
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Well, I don't know where the purple cloud comes from but it's in the Topps card set for The Motion Picture.

I'd like to see again the viewmaster version (which was in 3D) but it's too difficult for me to access the original slides now.
Took the liberty to check it out. Slide B 3 appears to feature an enlarged section of the card picture above, same as C 1 that has the Enterprise next to it.

C 6 has a strange visual effect that almost looks like a distorted version of Epsilon 9 and A 1 has several spheres above the Enterprise with swarms that appear to be "birds".

At least there are two real stereoscopic images. One with Kirk in front of the San Francisco aircab (with a view inside the cockpit!) and the other one at the V'ger core site.

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