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Old March 28 2014, 05:44 PM   #901
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Re: Arrow - Season 2

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It doesn't surprise me at all that Lance doesn't recognise Ollie, because his suspicion was based on Ollie and The Vigilante appearing in the city at the same time, not on appearance. I think it is being pushed to the edge of believability now because Ollie is connected to both Sara and Felicity, but Lance had to break his commitment to the idea and rationalize his "error." Now he has a commitment to the new idea.
But if Lance knew that Oliver is the Arrow would he feel compelled to arrest him?

Or has the fact that he's even called the arrow and knows that he's working with Sarah taken him beyond that point?
The fact that he has been working with him for most of season 2 seems to indicate he has gotten over his hatred of the Arrow.
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Old March 28 2014, 06:09 PM   #902
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But if Lance knew that Oliver is the Arrow would he feel compelled to arrest him?

Or has the fact that he's even called the arrow and knows that he's working with Sarah taken him beyond that point?
I think this last episode for sure puts Lance on the side of Team Arrow, if we weren't sure before.

Lance totally broke protocol taking Bertinelli in the van with Arrow and Canary to trade for Laurel. That isn't the first "grey" decision he's made, but it's the clearest. I don't see how he could arrest Ollie now, unless Ollie did something way over the top.
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Old March 28 2014, 07:15 PM   #903
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Yeah, really. He knows his daughter is the Canary, and is running around fighting crime with the Arrow. He also knows she's dating Oliver, whom he has suspected before, is the same height and build, and whose friggin phone rang right when he was calling the Arrow.

Laurel not recognizing Sara right in front of her was pretty ridiculous, too. Lampshading that was about the one thing I liked about the Green Lantern movie. "Hal, I've seen you naked. You don't think I would recognize you because I can't see your cheek bones?"
It's the bad wig. It totally changes what Sara looks like. And will probably be Sara's legacy to Laurel.
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Old March 28 2014, 07:23 PM   #904
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Lampshading that was about the one thing I liked about the Green Lantern movie. "Hal, I've seen you naked. You don't think I would recognize you because I can't see your cheek bones?"
Well, I haven't seen any of my siblings naked since we were about 5 years old, so that example doesn't sway me.
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It's the bad wig. It totally changes what Sara looks like. And will probably be Sara's legacy to Laurel.
I still remain unconvinced Laurel can ever become BC. The show is running on the premise of about 5 years training (without Mirakuru) to become awesome enough to kick ass while in a costume. Laurel has yet to achieve year one.
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Old March 28 2014, 08:10 PM   #905
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She was hitting people with a staff this week.

I'm not saying it's a good start,, but it is a start.
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Old March 28 2014, 08:12 PM   #906
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Yeah, this week showed that she won't shrink from a fight at least. She held her own against random thug #3.
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Old March 28 2014, 08:37 PM   #907
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She was hitting people with a staff this week.

I'm not saying it's a good start,, but it is a start.
Smacking someone with your law clerk does not make you a hero.
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Old March 28 2014, 08:37 PM   #908
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Yeah, we've seen Laurel hold her own in several fights now. She's not at Arrow/Canary levels, but she's not totally useless in a fight.
As for the episode, I enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as some of the last few, but I still thought it was pretty good overall. The stuff with Helena gave us some good material for Sarah. Although I do agree that Laurel not recognizing Sarah was kind of ridiculous, but I've seen enough superhero stories at this point I'm willing to overlook that. While her turn around has been kind of quick, it is nice to actually see Laurel being likeable again.
As for the Roy storyline, I was thinking that Ollie telling him to stay away from Thea was also him attempting to motivate him to get his act together, not just to protect Thea.
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Old March 28 2014, 11:24 PM   #909
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I like the way the series is dealing with Roy's addiction in a slightly different way than in the comics. I hope that a way is found to help Roy control it than is different than simply willpower because that would make Slade Wilson look less intimidating.

As for Laurel, I was in the camp that she couldn't be a hero but now that powers are actually entering the Arrow universe perhaps there will be some way to upload fighting abilities into her mind? The actress though certainly doesn't have the same physique as Sarah at this point -- assuming her abs are not CGI.

The series has not disappointed thus far and that has paid off in our confidence in the producers.
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Old March 28 2014, 11:56 PM   #910
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What addiction does Roy have in the series?
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Old March 29 2014, 12:04 AM   #911
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If we are going to talk fighting ability is there any way the Huntress should have held her own against someone with League training? I guess you could say Sara was holding back on her lethal moves but still Sara should have easily overpowered her. As for Lt. Drebin um I mean Detective Lance yea he knows.
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Old March 29 2014, 12:05 AM   #912
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What addiction does Roy have in the series?
To violence.

His own body rewards him for cutting loose into people.

Every time he punches someone it probably feels like a shot of heroin.

At least that's why I assume that it's so hard for him to stop from killing people, and why he's so angry when he's forced to stop.
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Old March 29 2014, 12:08 AM   #913
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If we are going to talk fighting ability is there any way the Huntress should have held her own against someone with League training? I guess you could say Sara was holding back on her lethal moves but still Sara should have easily overpowered her. As for Lt. Drebin um I mean Detective Lance yea he knows.
Just because her fighting style is 90 percent aerobics, it doesn't mean that it's not effective.

Do you think you could win a MMA cage match against Jane Fonda?
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Old March 29 2014, 12:32 AM   #914
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This is the DC universe.

Just putting on a pair of regular glasses is enough to disguise you from people who work with you every day and even crush on your alter ego.

A mask and a voice scrambler are light years ahead in DC disguise technology.
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Old March 29 2014, 12:47 AM   #915
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Guy Gardener wrote: View Post
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What addiction does Roy have in the series?
To violence.

His own body rewards him for cutting loose into people.

Every time he punches someone it probably feels like a shot of heroin.

At least that's why I assume that it's so hard for him to stop from killing people, and why he's so angry when he's forced to stop.
Yes, this is what the series is using instead of making him a junkie.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/03/...ful_heroes.php

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