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Old December 5 2013, 08:19 PM   #391
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(New 52 bridge from Flashpoint.)

Professor Zoom didn't kill Barry's mother.

It was just an ordinary burglar.

But Barry f####d over time by saving her.

Zoom was just immune to the changes to the timeline because of his connection to the speed force, and he laughed, oh how he laughed to see that the great and wonderful Flash destroyed the world so much just because he needed his mommy.

What Zoom did later on was trying his hardest to stop Barry from reversing his mistake, so that the Flash would be remembered as the worst asshole villain ever.



Not sure what happened in all the older "renditions" of the DCU, I grew up with Wally, but in the "arrowverse" young Barry encountered a blur that used wind to throw him across the neighbourhood... Time travel was most certainly implied that he himself was there or a villain was trying to kill the Flash before he became the Flash.
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Old December 5 2013, 09:18 PM   #392
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It wasn't Professor Zoom; it was The Blur. Barry even said so.

And the guy throwing steel doors? Also The Blur. That Gold guy is just a red herring.
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Old December 5 2013, 09:38 PM   #393
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So Clumsy.

Why doesn't he just call himself a Gold Herring?
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Old December 6 2013, 11:21 PM   #394
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It wasn't Professor Zoom; it was The Blur. Barry even said so.

And the guy throwing steel doors? Also The Blur. That Gold guy is just a red herring.
Really? Are you entirely sure about that?
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Old December 7 2013, 06:09 AM   #395
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I really enjoyed the episode. My only familiarity with Flash comes from the TV shows and DCAU movies, but I like the version we got in this episode. I'm glad to see them incorporating superpowers into show.
Did they use the same mispronunciation of Ra's al Ghoul that they used in the Nolan Batman movies?
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Old December 7 2013, 06:16 AM   #396
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^ If you're referring to "Ra's" vs. "Raysh" then my understanding is that they're both correct.
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Old December 7 2013, 06:23 AM   #397
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I didn't know that. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the Ra's was wrong, and that Christopher Nolan knew that and didn't care. Pretty much everything I've seen with the character other than this and Nolan movies pronounced it Raysh.
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Old December 7 2013, 08:11 AM   #398
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This says "Raysh" isn't quite correct.
guy on another board wrote:
I'm Lebanese and speak Arabic, so perhaps I can clarify this. "Raysh" is actually referring to the Hebrew version of the letter R, "Resh," which means "head" or "chief." The Arabic contrast to Resh is "Ra," and it too means "head."

In Arabic, you'd pronounce "Ra's" like "Raw-uhss."
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Old December 7 2013, 11:07 AM   #399
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It's a name. It's pronounced however the guy pronounces it.

Fuckin butthurt comic book nerds getting all bent out of shape about nothing.
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Old December 7 2013, 05:38 PM   #400
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It's a name. It's pronounced however the guy pronounces it.
And no matter how simple the name is, there's always going to be a Lando in the group.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:48 PM   #401
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Brother Blood, STAR Labs, Professor Ivo, Cyrus (Gold), Barry Allen. The series is looking more and more like the DCU.
Don't forget, the stolen centrifuge was a "Kord Industries" model. They showed the name plate later in the show.

Someone has been doing their homework....and I approve.

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Old December 8 2013, 12:15 AM   #402
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So is all this DCU name-dropping a new thing for the show?
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Old December 8 2013, 12:33 AM   #403
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Sorta. We've certainly seen more of it in recent episodes.
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Old December 8 2013, 12:34 AM   #404
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I didn't know that. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the Ra's was wrong, and that Christopher Nolan knew that and didn't care. Pretty much everything I've seen with the character other than this and Nolan movies pronounced it Raysh.
Like stated, neither is technically correct but there seems to be a constant disparity between animation and live action.

The DCAU and films pronounced it as Raysh, while Nolan's movies and now Arrow pronounce it as Razz.
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Old December 8 2013, 12:40 AM   #405
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So is all this DCU name-dropping a new thing for the show?
No, it's referred to the DCU pretty extensively right from the beginning. I'd say roughly half of the first season episodes focused on a recognizable villain, hero (other than Ollie obviously), or peripheral character, and that has seemed to increase with the second season.
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