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Old October 11 2013, 10:55 PM   #76
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Re: JJ Abrams apologizes for lens flare

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One might be moved to wonder what you called him first in order to prompt such a response,
Since you make a good point, I'll elaborate a bit more for the sake of making sure no one has to wonder. It's kind of funny because I wasn't even responding to a post he had made, let alone call him anything to provoke such a response. On Trekmovie's Post-release Into Darkness odds & ends and General Discussion comment section, Other Guy (post #231) made a comment about how Marcus wanting a war with the Klingons was akin to the US attacking Iraq even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or the accusations we used to go to war in the first place. I made a post (#257) saying how even though that is true, we still attacked Afghanistan first since that was a country that was harboring those terrorists. Not only does Marcus not have any beef with the Romulans, the Romulans aren't even mentioned at all in the movie. Despite saying only that, boborci responded (#291) by simply saying "enough crack smoking. Say no."

And that is it.
No one cares. Really.
Wrong. Really. Really wrong.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:13 PM   #77
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Re: JJ Abrams apologizes for lens flare

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Lens flares as seen in the Abrams films are annoying, but nothing as bad as the scripts. Once Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof apologize for their scripts (both Trek and Beyond) then that will be something.
I wouldn't hold my breath on them apologizing for making Star Trek fun and watchable again.
If only they were fun and watchable. If only.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:21 PM   #78
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If only they were fun and watchable. If only.
They are. I've seen Star Trek 2009 easily a dozen times and Into Darkness seven.

Thinking about doing a double-header this weekend.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:27 PM   #79
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Your opinion, pal. I don't find much fun in watching them, especially the 2009 film. STID has the opening sequence going for it, but it just goes downhill after that for me.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:31 PM   #80
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Your opinion, pal. I don't find much fun in watching them, especially the 2009 film. STID has the opening sequence going for it, but it just goes downhill after that for me.
Not every Trek works for every person. While I don't hate them, if I never saw Deep Space Nine, Voyager or Enterprise again, I'm not sure I'd even notice.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:42 PM   #81
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That's too bad, DS9 has some of the best writing along with TOS and TNG.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:48 PM   #82
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That's too bad, DS9 has some of the best writing along with TOS and TNG.
I think that DS9 was overly melodramatic and made me laugh more than any drama series should and that the Abrams films have some of the best writing and characterization of any of the Star Trek movies.

Different strokes.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:56 PM   #83
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That's too bad, DS9 has some of the best writing along with TOS and TNG.
I think that DS9 was overly melodramatic and made me laugh more than any drama series should and that the Abrams films have some of the best writing and characterization of any of the Star Trek movies.

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Old October 12 2013, 01:17 AM   #84
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No one cares. Really.
Wrong. Really. Really wrong.
Jeyl's gripe with Orci is over something which happened at another site, and he was asked not to drag it over here. When he did so anyway, BillJ ought properly to have demonstrated his lack of care by posting no response, and your demonstration of care would be more appropriately brought to the attention of either TrekMovie or Paramount. There's nothing which can be done here about the matter, and it's got zip to do with lens-flare apologies, anyway.

Back to topic, please.
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Old October 12 2013, 07:50 PM   #85
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Would it make a difference if it didn't happen online but in real life? Like having a discussion with Orci on the street and then talking about it here?
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Old October 12 2013, 08:30 PM   #86
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Would it make a difference if it didn't happen online but in real life? Like having a discussion with Orci on the street and then talking about it here?
Sure it would.

Because you could much more easily gauge intent. Is the person saying what their saying to be an asshole? Are they being defensive? Sarcastic?

So many people are quick to decry an internet comment without really knowing the emotion or intent behind it.
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Old October 12 2013, 09:51 PM   #87
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Would it make a difference if it didn't happen online but in real life? Like having a discussion with Orci on the street and then talking about it here?
That's not the topic. "Abrams apologizing for lens-flare" is the topic.

BillJ: same message.
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Old October 13 2013, 04:05 AM   #88
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I think the current shaky cam trend started with Saving Private Ryan. The excessive use of lens flares, I'm not sure.
Traditionally, lens flare was considered an error and was scrupulously avoided by Hollywood cinematographers. Lens flare became, for lack of a better term, "hip" in the 1960s. Ironically, it was thought to enhance verisimilitude, to create a documentary-like realism -- although, of course, it's a technical artifact created by reflections between multiple elements of the camera lens.

Compounding the irony is that, with today's digital photography, lens flare is often a CG effect added in postproduction.

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Old October 14 2013, 12:10 AM   #89
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If ANYONE needs to apologize for lens flare, it's these jackholes!

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