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Old October 1 2013, 03:27 AM   #106
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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The British Nationality Act of 1948 governed Obama''s birth status when he was born. It was stated on his campaign website back in 2008. As for Cruz, no he is not eligible for Article 2 Section 1. From his 'Fight The Smears campaign website:

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
You are confused. There is no reasonable question that President Obama was a natural-born US citizen as he was born in Hawaii to a US citizen mother.
Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery. That evidence was backed by a independent court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document expert named Reed Hayes from Hawaii. He has decades of experience with impeccable credentials. His report was over 40 pages of all things wrong with Obama's birth document and was submitted to Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo. Here is the evidence in an affidavit by Mike Zullo. It is a stunning complication of evidence and it has been turned over to Congressman Steve Stockman and Ted Yoho who are working behind closed doors to get a investigative congressional committee together with subpoena powers. Their evidence now puts the official statements of the Hawaii Dept. of Health officials in question. So no, we can't at this time conclude that Hawaii was the true birthplace of Obama. Also a dual citizen can never be considered a natural born Citizen. The U.S. state department frowns upon dual citizenship.

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That's the most retarded thing I've ever read in here, and I spent most of my time in TNZ...so congrats on winning the award.
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Old October 1 2013, 03:53 AM   #107
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

I'll never understand why a black man being President bothers some people so much and why they must create such elaborate conspiracies and stories so they don't have to admit it's simple racism.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:04 AM   #108
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The insurance carrier made it clear the increase was in order to be compliant with the new health care law.
And we all know that insurance people never lie.

Beside, as an Italian citizen, I get my healthcare from the our National Health Service. It's tax-funded and it's ranked as the second best in the world by the World Health Organization. So, yay for "socialism", I guess.
Same in Australia, where the levy is 1.5% of your gross income, adn who would miss that? That's only about $900 A YEAR so someone paying that a month is WTF territory for me. Why is it so hard for the US to do that? It simply escapes me.

Read all about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicar...egal_framework

As for this:
I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has done a 22 month investigation that found the birth certificate put on the White House website back on April 27, 2011 to be a 100% forgery. That evidence was backed by a independent court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document expert named Reed Hayes from Hawaii. He has decades of experience with impeccable credentials. His report was over 40 pages of all things wrong with Obama's birth document and was submitted to Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo.
I'm with Squigs. You should tell us more about the privy. Seems to be where you're getting this shit from. If any of this was close to real, it'd be out there and an impeachment hearing would be happening as we speak. Grow up.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:14 AM   #109
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Hopefully this horrible horrible policy will be blocked and eventually stopped from every happening. Absolute terrible entitlement that will have a significant role in crippling this country.

Make no mistake, this will help lead towards a worse future for Americans and humankind.
Remember, kids, when you need it, "you earned it."
When someone else needs it, it's "entitlement."

Goddamn sick kids and their need to live. You're right, Alex, those poor kids who died from easily preventable illnesses were spoiled rotten, thinking they had the right to proper healthcare in one of the richest nations in the world.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:22 AM   #110
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I'll pay my $95 fine every year. It's cheaper than something I don't want.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:23 AM   #111
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I'll pay my $95 fine every year. It's cheaper than something I don't want.
Is it cheaper than if you get injured/sick having to pay out 1000s of dollars for medical treatment?
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Old October 1 2013, 04:33 AM   #112
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

Maybe all these posters are Amish and mocking the "I don't want health insurance" thing would be insulting religious beliefs?

Oh wait... online discussion board.
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Old October 1 2013, 04:43 AM   #113
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I'll pay my $95 fine every year. It's cheaper than something I don't want.
Not having health insurance is as stupid as not having car insurance (which is very stupid, as a friend of mine is currently finding out).
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Old October 1 2013, 04:57 AM   #114
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

While I agree not having health insurance is stupid, shouldn't Americans have the freedom to choose if they want it or not and not have to be told "Get Health Insurance or else...". Aren't people old enough to make their own choices and live with their own consequences? Why, in this country, must everyone have health insurance whether they like it or not?
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Old October 1 2013, 05:03 AM   #115
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While I agree not having health insurance is stupid, shouldn't Americans have the freedom to choose if they want it or not and not have to be told "Get Health Insurance or else...". Aren't people old enough to make their own choices and live with their own consequences? Why, in this country, must everyone have health insurance whether they like it or not?
Because not having health insurance, just like not having car insurance, drives up costs for everyone else. Hospitals can't turn you away just because you don't have health insurance, so they pass the costs on to those who do. Similarly, if you don't have car insurance and you crash into someone, they still have to pay for it - and they can't rely on your insurance to help cover it either. So their rates go up even more.
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Old October 1 2013, 05:36 AM   #116
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Re: Ok Trekkers, Don't Forget To Sign Up For Mandatory Obamacare Oct 1

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Ignoring all of the actual evidence that he was born in Hawaii, the idea that a couple in the early 60's who *had* been in Hawaii would hatch a plan to leave the country, name their biracial child Barack Hussein Obama, Jr, and then plot to get him illegally elected President by placing birth announcements in local Hawaiian papers, and then take him out of the country again for a few more years is just insane. And to what end? To destroy the economy by presiding over the doubling of the stock market, extracting us from drawn out wars, increasing fuel economy standards and use of renewable energies, and getting access to healthcare for people with preexisting conditions? Dastardly.
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Not true at all that I am confused. I am privy to a lot of things pertaining to this.
Sounds more to me like you've got your head stuck in the privy.

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Really? An elected political actor in a jurisdiction far removed from the one in question is sufficient to overcome all the evidence to the contrary?
This. So much this. Even I know that Maricopa County is nowhere near Hawaii. I can't imagine what expertise a sheriff from Arizona might have in government documentation issued half an ocean away. Or do people just have an overwhelming desire to watch Obama digging ditches while wearing pink underwear? Because that's about the only thing that Arpaio is capable of producing.

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Maybe you should do some reading before you post again becasue there are millions in Canada, the U.K, Australia, Scandinavia etc etc who have universal health coverage and guess what - we're not suffering for it and we have a lot better health than many many many Americans.
Shhh! Don't tell them that - you'll ruin their preconceptions that we have unreasonable wait times and second-rate care, even though I got an immediate exam, including a CT scan, when I had a sudden-onset, blinding headache, and a full range of tests (including more CT scans as well as heart tests) within two or three weeks of having a series of fainting spells.
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Old October 1 2013, 06:21 AM   #117
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I'll pay my $95 fine every year. It's cheaper than something I don't want.
You won't want it right up until you'll need it. Then you'll thank god you have it. Of course, if you don't have it, your $95 won't mean shit against what you'll cost me in the current system, so consider it a bargain.
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Old October 1 2013, 06:24 AM   #118
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well, it won't be $95 every year. from what i understand the penalty goes up every year or so.
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Old October 1 2013, 07:14 AM   #119
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well, it won't be $95 every year. from what i understand the penalty goes up every year or so.
By 2016, the penalty is $2000.
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Old October 1 2013, 08:00 AM   #120
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Make no mistake, this will help lead towards a worse future for Americans and humankind.
You guys are so funny. Also, if you are gonna write such silly things, please drop the iguana avatar. It's embarrassing.

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I'll pay my $95 fine every year. It's cheaper than something I don't want.
Well, I hope you don't get sick.

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While I agree not having health insurance is stupid, shouldn't Americans have the freedom to choose if they want it or not and not have to be told "Get Health Insurance or else...". Aren't people old enough to make their own choices and live with their own consequences? Why, in this country, must everyone have health insurance whether they like it or not?
Because not having health insurance, just like not having car insurance, drives up costs for everyone else. Hospitals can't turn you away just because you don't have health insurance, so they pass the costs on to those who do.
It's amazing how people don't understand how insurance works.
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