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Old December 2 2013, 06:44 PM   #61
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You're welcome!
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Old December 3 2013, 05:23 AM   #62
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I was originally going to get this right away...but looks like I'm going to have to wait until after Christmas or next month t get it. I can't wait to check this out, and that Cardassian Union map looks fantastic.
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Old December 3 2013, 07:18 PM   #63
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Out of curiosity for anyone who has this already- are the maps nice enough to frame? I don't mind some creases from being folded in the book, so long as the detail is nice and it unfolds large enough.
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Old December 3 2013, 08:31 PM   #64
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I'm more interested in the contents of the book proper, which I haven't heard much about.
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Old December 3 2013, 09:35 PM   #65
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Looking forward to seeing and reading for myself. Just placed the order with my indy bookstore of choice.
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Out of curiosity for anyone who has this already- are the maps nice enough to frame?
Of course! But there are ten of them!


Sample map from Star Trek: Stellar Cartography by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
(A Blu-Ray container for a sense of scale.)

I don't mind some creases from being folded in the book, so long as the detail is nice and it unfolds large enough.
Similar to Bantam's "Star Trek Maps", but those were printed on both sides, making them tricky to frame. These are printed on one side only.

36" x 24" (91 x 60.5cm) each.

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I'm more interested in the contents of the book proper, which I haven't heard much about.
The book is essentially a companion to the "Federation: The First 150 Years" book. Similar size, binding and cover, although only 48 pages (vs 176 pages for "Federation: The First 150 Years"). Glossy pages throughout, reproducing the maps as double-spread images - whereas the ten, larger, folded maps in the magnetic folder are matt finish - and the book has a double-page of text to put each map into perspective.
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So the larger maps don't provide anything that isn't in the book other than size and removability? Is this going to be another thing where they release the book by itself the following year?
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Old December 3 2013, 10:09 PM   #68
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So the larger maps don't provide anything that isn't in the book other than size and removability? Is this going to be another thing where they release the book by itself the following year?
I'm sure it's been designed that way, but avid map collectors are not going to be satisfied with the book-only.

I haven't done a page-by-map comparison yet, but the map I photographed above is shown in the book both with (small size) and without (larger) text labels. (And was painted by an Andorian artist/cartographer, Rhiis Talee!)
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And tied to the "47North'Verse" version of Trek.

Would love to have a "Novel'Verse" edition as well...
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Old December 4 2013, 01:54 AM   #70
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Larry's latest note on the subject over on Trekland.
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Old December 4 2013, 03:26 AM   #71
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Hmm... that first image shows the UFP's original borders, which seem a bit small to me; they surround the five founder worlds but leave out known Earth colonies which presumably would've been under UFP jurisdiction, like Vega and Deneva. Perhaps there's a way to reconcile this?

It looks like the map is mainly historical, since it seems to outline the Vegan Tyranny -- actually a concept from James Blish's Cities in Flight universe, but he mentioned it in his TOS adaptations.

I also would've thought Hobus would be a lot closer to Romulus. I'm curious about the textures in that map of Romulan space, though. Maybe a representation of the interstellar medium density, regions where it's concentrated?
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Old December 4 2013, 03:50 AM   #72
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Wow, that is awesome! Thanks so much for the scan. They're a whole lot bigger than I was expecting. A little pressing and some matting, and they'll look awesome on my walls.
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Hmm... that first image shows the UFP's original borders, which seem a bit small to me; they surround the five founder worlds but leave out known Earth colonies which presumably would've been under UFP jurisdiction, like Vega and Deneva. Perhaps there's a way to reconcile this?
And Heliopolis as well? (Possibly outside the area excerpted.)

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It looks like the map is mainly historical, since it seems to outline the Vegan Tyranny -- actually a concept from James Blish's Cities in Flight universe, but he mentioned it in his TOS adaptations.
Interesting, that. Might it have been referenced in an episode and we missed the name-check?

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I also would've thought Hobus would be a lot closer to Romulus. I'm curious about the textures in that map of Romulan space, though. Maybe a representation of the interstellar medium density, regions where it's concentrated?
Possibly artistic discretion. That map is meant to be attributed to Romulan records, after all.
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Old December 4 2013, 05:16 AM   #74
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Hmm... that first image shows the UFP's original borders, which seem a bit small to me; they surround the five founder worlds but leave out known Earth colonies which presumably would've been under UFP jurisdiction, like Vega and Deneva. Perhaps there's a way to reconcile this?
And Heliopolis as well? (Possibly outside the area excerpted.)
Heliopolis is a city on a planet of Alpha Eridani, aka Achernar. The Romulan War novels showed that the colony was destroyed and Achernar taken in the war, which is consistent with Achernar being the capital of the Imperial Romulan State during its brief existence. So Heliopolis would no longer have existed as of the UFP's founding.


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It looks like the map is mainly historical, since it seems to outline the Vegan Tyranny -- actually a concept from James Blish's Cities in Flight universe, but he mentioned it in his TOS adaptations.
Interesting, that. Might it have been referenced in an episode and we missed the name-check?
No, Mandel is just continuing the tradition. It was referenced in Star Trek Maps as well. STM had a number of in-joke references to worlds from original prose SF, like the Ringworld, Riverworld, Pern, and Alan Dean Foster's Hivehom and Tran-Ky-Ky. There's even a star system called THX-1138.

Wow -- I was just looking over my PDF scans of STM, which I use for reference these days because my physical copy is too fragile, and for a moment I could swear I smelled the paper of the real thing. I guess that sense memory is burned into my brain.
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Old December 4 2013, 05:55 AM   #75
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Got notification from Amazon that this shipped today, so I hope to have it soon!

Looks like they didn't change their placement of Andoria...
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