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Old November 21 2013, 06:50 PM   #46
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Re: Person of Interest Season 3

IMO this was the best show on TV, but I'm not sure it is anymore now that she's gone.
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Old November 21 2013, 07:27 PM   #47
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Yet another explosive episode but I am also super bummed at the ending. The other shocker for me was the realization that Reese wasn't the first.
How could there be time for anyone other than Reese to be Finch's field operations agent? The Machine went online in 2010 or so, and Ingram and Finch were killed and injured, respectively, in that year. Reese was recruited in 2011. So, what, Finch's first operative lasted a couple of months?
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Old November 21 2013, 08:50 PM   #48
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^ Days or hours even. It's a dangerous job so the impression I got was that the other one(s) didn't last long.
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Old November 21 2013, 09:09 PM   #49
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One of Finch's helper monkeys could've botched his very first number and gotten killed.

This also opens the door for a supposedly-dead helper monkey coming back into the picture for Finch, like Stanton with Reese.
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Old November 21 2013, 09:57 PM   #50
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But wasn't Finch reluctant to allow the irrelevant numbers to be fed somewhere? Wasn't Ingram the one who initiated it, and the one who tried helping someone first? Wasn't Finch motivated to actually try helping irrelevant list after Ingram was killed and he himself injured in late 2010? Didn't Finch spot disheveled Reese in the hospital where he was recuperating, where Reese's love interest had worked?

I just don't get how the timeline would work. I know Finch had a security staff in the pilot, men that escorted him around, but they disappeared after Reese took on the field operations for the irrelevant list. I don't see how there could be time for anyone other than Reese to be the first operative.
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Old November 22 2013, 02:53 PM   #51
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Just caught up. Didn't get any ads, so, wow, didn't see that coming. Bummer. Brave move. The future is changing.

Wow. Still digesting it.
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Old November 23 2013, 01:03 PM   #52
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Same here. I watched it last night with my wife who had unfortunately seen a spoiler about the ending. I totally thought it was going to be Fusco.

I'll be interested to see the story on Reese not being the first to work for Finch.
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Old November 23 2013, 06:54 PM   #53
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From the sounds of things, she signed onto the show wanting a shorter contract than everyone else.

In an interview with the showrunners, Caviezel and Henson decided to kiss unscripted. But it doesn't necessarily mean they were in love, just showing some extra affection and appreciation in the moment.
Yeah, I got the sense that it was just two people who had been through a hell of a lot showing appreciation to each other.

I really liked how that episode was done, I was unsure whether it would be Carter, Reese or Fusco who eventually went. The Fusco scenes were awesome, that look of pure hatred he had when strangling Peterson was just...wow.

I was wondering when one of their numbers was going to come up. I liked the revelation that Reese wasn't the first helper as well, but like others I'm not sure how it fits in with the timeline. Guess they just weren't as badass.

I know the Batman comparison has been made before, but I got a really big Batman vibe when he was skulking around the morgue and striking out then slipping back into the shadows.

So was the phone ringing at the end the machine distracting Harold so he wouldn't get in the line of fire or was it for something else? I first thought the former, but then it went after Simmons had fled (although that could just have been for dramatic effect.
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Old November 23 2013, 07:05 PM   #54
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I, too, thought it might be the Machine trying to slow or stop Harold from getting in the line of fire. It has stopped him from being hit by a car before, so it does "care" about him in some way. But the numbers never stop coming....
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Old November 23 2013, 07:06 PM   #55
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I thought it was the machine calling with Carter's number but it was too late.
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Old November 23 2013, 09:40 PM   #56
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'm a little surprised that the machine only came out with Reese's number and not Carter's and Fusco's.
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Old November 24 2013, 08:20 PM   #57
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I thought it was the machine calling with Carter's number but it was too late.
That was my take on it as we'll.
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Old November 24 2013, 09:08 PM   #58
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Well, the Machine's not a PreCog (although at times its predictions defy believability). It generates its predictions based on data mining and probability analysis. If no one has talked about or planned killing a person on some electronically accessible text/data/audio/video medium, then the Machine has no way of knowing that the person is a target for murder. In this case, Carter was not the target of the assassination (Reese was, she just got in the way), and there was no advanced discussion of her murder, so the Machine didn't see it coming at all or didn't see it coming until it was way too late to do anything about it.
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Old November 24 2013, 11:29 PM   #59
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Well, the Machine's not a PreCog (although at times its predictions defy believability). It generates its predictions based on data mining and probability analysis. If no one has talked about or planned killing a person on some electronically accessible text/data/audio/video medium, then the Machine has no way of knowing that the person is a target for murder. In this case, Carter was not the target of the assassination (Reese was, she just got in the way), and there was no advanced discussion of her murder, so the Machine didn't see it coming at all or didn't see it coming until it was way too late to do anything about it.
I think it's assumed that Carter's number did come up. That's what the phone was ringing for at the end.
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Old November 25 2013, 03:11 AM   #60
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I was responding to trekkiebaggio's comment about why Carter's and Fusco's numbers didn't come up along with Reese's (I assume he meant at the same time).

Dramatically, it makes sense for the call at the end to be about the Machine warning Finch about Carter (sort of a way of expressing regret --like if he had just picked up the phone in time...), but I tend to lean toward the camp that says it was the Machine keeping Harold away from the shooting of Reese and Carter to keep him safe. The Machine sees things in real time, so it would have known Carter had already been shot and stopped calling at that point. I think at first it might have been keeping Harold away to keep him out of the line of fire, but after that it kept ringing to spare him the sight of Carter dying up close and personal, since he may not be able to handle it. It does seem to care about Finch and his emotional state a great deal, going so far as to assist in his love life.
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