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Old October 30 2013, 06:59 PM   #1306
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

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The problem isn't that us fans aren't giving it a chance, but that the suits will the ratings plummet and... well, that's that.
Except that "the suits" work for ABC, which is owned by Disney, which owns Marvel and has a lot of money invested in the success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Besides, the ratings plummet because the audience stops watching. If the audience sticks with the show and gives it a chance to improve, then the ratings don't plummet. What I'm saying is that if the fans were more patient, if we understood that the early episodes kind of have to be written off as an exercise in network appeasement and that the really good stuff tends to come later, then maybe fewer good shows with slow starts would get cancelled.
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Old October 30 2013, 07:00 PM   #1307
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It was always Alyson Hannigan for me, but it's a matter of personal preference...
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Old October 30 2013, 07:08 PM   #1308
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If there is any time for rewrites, the only regular cast members I'd keep are Ming-Na and Clark Gregg.
I'd keep Chloe Bennet. She's an interesting character and too much of a focus to drop at this point.
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Old October 30 2013, 07:20 PM   #1309
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Juliet Landau is now (audio) Romana III.

A face for radio?
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Old October 30 2013, 07:30 PM   #1310
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Besides, the ratings plummet because the audience stops watching. If the audience sticks with the show and gives it a chance to improve, then the ratings don't plummet. What I'm saying is that if the fans were more patient, if we understood that the early episodes kind of have to be written off as an exercise in network appeasement and that the really good stuff tends to come later, then maybe fewer good shows with slow starts would get cancelled.
Marvel fans will give it a chance, genre fans might, ordinary TV viewers... staying away in droves.
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Old October 30 2013, 08:14 PM   #1311
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It's the name.

What could have been better?

Coulsen's Howling Commandos?

Who want's to kill a Superhero?

Spies Vs. Capes?

The Magic Bus?

The Grand World of Marvel?

S.H.I.E.L.D.? Fuck Yeah!?
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Old October 30 2013, 08:32 PM   #1312
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Wonder if anyone from SHIELD is going to cameo in The Dark World? I'm guessing if so, at least Coulson.
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Old October 30 2013, 08:42 PM   #1313
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If there is any time for rewrites, the only regular cast members I'd keep are Ming-Na and Clark Gregg.
I'd keep Chloe Bennet. She's an interesting character and too much of a focus to drop at this point.
That may be the problem with her character. I agree that she's interesting, but the series tries to paint her as an unfortunate, unlucky person when that is clearly not how she's portrayed. She's lived all this time in a van? Not buying it. She's all by herself? Tell that to the guy she knew so well that they literally had sex in less than a minute upon seeing each other.

Skye is really starting to come off more as a "Creator's Pet" that everyone involved with the show wants us to like, and they're going out of their way to make us like her. It's a bit too much, especially since everything that's sad and unfortunate about her isn't conveyed well at all.
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Old October 30 2013, 08:44 PM   #1314
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Wonder if anyone from SHIELD is going to cameo in The Dark World? I'm guessing if so, at least Coulson.
Coulson is still dead to level 6 and below.

Having him in the movie while trying to "stay dead" could be funny.
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Old October 30 2013, 09:53 PM   #1315
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Unless "Tahiti" was really the Asgardian healing room.

Hey it saved Fandral after he'd been stabbed through the heart.
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Old October 30 2013, 10:07 PM   #1316
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Unless "Tahiti" was really the Asgardian healing room.

Hey it saved Fandral after he'd been stabbed through the heart.
"Tahiti is a magical place."
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Old October 30 2013, 10:11 PM   #1317
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The people who want a serialized arc have had plenty thrown to them by this show. Maybe other people are no more interested in Coulson's metaphysical status than I am? Maybe the (to me invisible) specialness of Sky just isn't enough to make Rising Tide real, much less threatening. The only real representative after all is Sky. If she's just a bimbo, then Rising Tide doesn't matter. But the dead/alive and Rising Tide arcs have been there from the beginning. Really, the extremis doctor reappearing withing five episodes isn't much of a wait either.

Threshold is not a good example because it didn't start with a big audience, then rapidly lose it. It never had good enough ratings (for CBS, at least.) Flash Gordon does seem to be the better example, although it just may have looked too cheap. I quit after the "Hawkmen" appeared, from sheer embarrassment at the thought someone might walk into the room and catch me watching. That happened once when River was mad-libbing on Firefly and I really don't care to repeat that kind of experience.
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Old October 30 2013, 10:30 PM   #1318
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Unless "Tahiti" was really the Asgardian healing room.
That's my thinking.
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Old October 30 2013, 10:51 PM   #1319
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What I'm saying is that if the fans were more patient, if we understood that the early episodes kind of have to be written off as an exercise in network appeasement and that the really good stuff tends to come later, then maybe fewer good shows with slow starts would get cancelled.
So your suggestion is to watch everything on the off chance that it gets good if it stays on the air long enough?
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Old October 31 2013, 12:03 AM   #1320
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What's with the name "Chloe Bennet" anyway? Sounds like some kind of Smallville/Heroes fusion. Let's see...her character's already a hacker chick, will we find out she can regenerate, too?
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