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Old September 25 2013, 01:28 PM   #91
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Not impressed at all with this show. Watched it to see how good it was going to be. Don't plan on watching any others.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:45 PM   #92
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Very entertaining plus it made me laugh out loud a couple of times. I like what they are doing with Coulson.
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Old September 25 2013, 01:45 PM   #93
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Huh. I enjoyed it a whole helluva lot. I'm surprised by the amount of lukewarm (and worse) reactions, but I also loved Iron Man 3, so what do I know?
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Old September 25 2013, 03:24 PM   #94
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Well, now that I've had a chance to let it sink in, I'm not hooked, but I'm interested enough to stick around for a few episodes to see how it develops... It needs to get out from under the Avengers' shadow and really become its own thing... And I think I see that happening.. Or at least the seeds of that happening... THere were plenty of Avengers call backs, which I expected, but I think there's enough there to build on.

I did, like others have said, find all the brunettes distracting, as I couldn't always tell them apart, but I'm sure that will figure itself out.

I give it a 7 out of 10...
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Old September 25 2013, 03:28 PM   #95
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Certainly splashier than Alphas, but not sure it's better...
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Old September 25 2013, 03:45 PM   #96
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A big meh for me.
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Old September 25 2013, 03:47 PM   #97
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I am surprised by the many negative or so-so comments. It was an intro episode. And I think they did a great job. Lots of places they could go with it. But the way the networks seems to "listen in" on discussions like these, all that negativity may just spell doom for the show before it even finds its legs.
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Old September 25 2013, 03:49 PM   #98
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Hmm...well it wasn't bad exactly, but it wasn't exactly what I'd call a strong pilot either. Maybe it's just me, but it felt like they were using an early draft of the script. Whedon's stuff is usually way more polished than this. Yeah, it had some funny moments, but some pretty awkward ones too.

I'm not quite buying the supermodel wannabe as a hacker. She did OK performance wise and I suppose they already have two geek characters on the team, but the character just didn't gel IMO. Any other show I'd probably let it slide, but memorable and diverse ensemble casts are something Whedon is known for and this one just felt oddly generic.

Honestly, Couson and Melinda May--now *there's* a Stan Lee name if ever I heard one --are the only characters that really worked for me.

I like the modified Hercules. I wonder what the odds are of it being VTOL capable? The line about these being what they had before the helicarrier was a nice touch.

Minor point, but is SHIELD supposed to be an American government agency, or a clandestine version of NATO? I ask because the two tech specialists are Brits. Then there's the fact it's precursor (SSR ?) was an Allied Forces operation and Fury in Avengers Fury appeared to be answerable to some kind of World Council.

Oh and I think clone is a little too obvious. I'm betting or "resurrected by alien technology." That or robot.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:11 PM   #99
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This show is worth watching just for Coulson, so I'll be tuning in. As for the strength of the pilot, well, I didn't like the Elementary pilot episode, but the rest of the season was great. We should always give a show more than a pilot to find its strengths.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:16 PM   #100
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I like the modified Hercules. I wonder what the odds are of it being VTOL capable? The line about these being what they had before the helicarrier was a nice touch.

C-17 Globemaster III, actually. Much larger than a C-130 Hercules. The helicarrier line was a nice touch.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:20 PM   #101
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I was genuinely happy they did it that way as opposed to expositioning on something that 98% of their audience probably knew about already.
That's an unwise assumption. The whole reason you make multimedia franchises in the first place is because each new medium brings you a different audience. Sure, a large percentage of this show's viewers will be people who've seen the movies, but if you're moving something to a new medium, you want to make it accessible to people who haven't seen its previous incarnations as well. Heck, even within a single medium, one of the basic rules of series writing is to assume that every installment will be somebody's first, and thus to make it comprehensible on its own. You don't want to overdo the exposition to make it boring to those who are familiar with it, sure, but there is a comfortable middle ground, a way to balance both audiences' needs.


Erskine's formula and gamma radiation were also mentioned - why do they get a pass?
As I said, it's not that it was mentioned, it's how. I felt those mentions worked better. Simmons listed the serum, gamma radiation, and one other thing and said they were "every known source of superpowers," so that explains what they are. Coulson just said "Extremis. It's new." That's not enough by itself. I'm not opposed to mentioning Extremis, I just think it could've been handled better.


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I did, like others have said, find all the brunettes distracting, as I couldn't always tell them apart, but I'm sure that will figure itself out.
I find the three female leads to be very easy to tell apart. Ming-Na Wen is a famous face in her own right, and she's older than the others as well as being the only clearly Asian cast member (Chloe Bennet is half-Chinese but doesn't really look it). And Elizabeth Henstridge's hair is a lighter, more honey-brown shade that the others' and a lot straighter than Bennet's, plus she has an English accent.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:29 PM   #102
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Due to some issues at home I didn't get around to watching this until late last night and I kept dozing off (due in no part to the show, just a very long day). I thought it was ok, but I'll give it another viewing with fresh eyes this weekend. The real cringe-worthy part for me was the flying car at the end. Please don't ever do that again...
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Old September 25 2013, 04:35 PM   #103
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I like the modified Hercules. I wonder what the odds are of it being VTOL capable? The line about these being what they had before the helicarrier was a nice touch.

C-17 Globemaster III, actually. Much larger than a C-130 Hercules. The helicarrier line was a nice touch.
I thought the fuselage looked a bit too big for a Herc, but it's been years since I've seen one up close (or even at a distance come to think of it) so I didn't trust my memory and just took a guess. Actually, it was the different cockpit that really made me wonder, but I just put it down to being a modification.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:38 PM   #104
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It was the Spruce Goose.

Now for the ratings...

Viewers: 11.9 million
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I wonder what the drop-off will be.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:55 PM   #105
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Well, now that I've had a chance to let it sink in, I'm not hooked, but I'm interested enough to stick around for a few episodes to see how it develops... It needs to get out from under the Avengers' shadow and really become its own thing... And I think I see that happening.. Or at least the seeds of that happening... THere were plenty of Avengers call backs, which I expected, but I think there's enough there to build on.
To be honest all the Avengers references and talk of "walking amongst Gods" just kinda made me wish I was watching those colorful and dynamic characters instead. Whether in the next Avengers movie, Thor or Captain America.

Coulson aside, I always found SHIELD in those earlier movies to be pretty dull and forgettable in comparison, and unfortunately this first episode hasn't done much to convince me otherwise.

I certainly like the idea of a "Lower Decks" approach to the Marvel universe, but a lot of what made that TNG episode special was getting to see our main characters through the eyes of the lower-ranking officers. It wasn't just a lot of talk and vague references about these people they never saw (or only saw in news clips).
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