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Old October 14 2013, 12:46 AM   #856
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

This early review for "Eye Spy" suggests the establishing of a big bad of some sort. Slight spoilers...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/...d-1-4-eye-spy/

If they are connected to the recurring threat from "Pilot" and "Girl in the Flower Dress", then that will make 3 of the first 5 episodes building them up. Plus another that established a recurring villain.

As for "The fall of HYDRA", well "Cut off one head, and two more will take its place".
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Old October 14 2013, 12:53 AM   #857
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The Fall of Hydra (combined with taking refuge in Latin America) was a direct reference to the fall of Nazi Germany. Whether Hydra is entirely eradicated I suppose is something to wait and see on, but I think the idea is that they fell when Germany fell.
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Old October 14 2013, 01:17 AM   #858
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This early review for "Eye Spy" suggests the establishing of a big bad of some sort. Slight spoilers...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/...d-1-4-eye-spy/

If they are connected to the recurring threat from "Pilot" and "Girl in the Flower Dress", then that will make 3 of the first 5 episodes building them up. Plus another that established a recurring villain.

As for "The fall of HYDRA", well "Cut off one head, and two more will take its place".
Yep. They need to bring in Baron Von Strucker.
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Old October 14 2013, 01:29 AM   #859
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And Zemo.

It's really amazing the happy sentiments I have toward Hemlut Zemo after tucking a decade of Thunderbolts under my belt.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:07 AM   #860
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Yeah, Buffy set the standard that has been followed with others in a quasi-serialized setting ...
I think Babylon 5 was actually the show that pioneered the hybrid episodic/serial format with planned season-long arcs. Other shows had added serialization before then, Hill Street Blues being the pioneering case (along with nighttime soaps like Dallas), but B5's innovation was treating each season as a distinct "novel" with a cohesive story arc resolved in the season finale (and escalating things for the next season).


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I think that it would hilarious if Stan Lee did a cameo as... himself. "Stan Lee: Legendary creator of such fictional Marvel super-heroes as Spider-Man, The X-Men and the Fantastic Four!"
Heck, it's always been an established fact of the Marvel Comics universe that Marvel Comics and its creators exist within that universe and publish comics about the real superheroes that inhabit it. Cf. Lee and Kirby being refused entry to Reed and Sue's wedding, or Claremont and Byrne looking on as the X-Men go into action and discussing how they'd better get back to the office to write down what they just saw (or something like that). Jennifer (She-Hulk) Walters has actually used issues of Marvel publications as evidence in legal cases involving their characters. (I'm not sure how the secret-identity issue is dealt with. Presumably the versions of, say, Spider-Man or Daredevil comics published within the MU aren't exactly the same as the ones we read in the real world.)

So they could just as easily have Lee be the publisher of comics based on the real-life adventures of Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, etc. Although, well, most of the MCU characters are recent arrivals in the world, so maybe he just did Captain America comics (I think we saw some real Golden Age Cap comics covers at a newsstand in the movie, so those are part of the MCU, at least) and maybe Human Torch comics (the '40s android one).


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Except Hydra is (apparently) gone. In the second episode, Coulson's ex made a reference to the fall of Hydra. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the just went underground, but as far as anyone knows they're not an issue anymore.
In the comics, Advanced Idea Mechanics originated as the special-weapons branch of HYDRA. And we know AIM exists in the MCU.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:29 AM   #861
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AIM "seemed" to originate without any stoking from Hydra.

Fall of Hydra seemed to be an indicator to merit the end of World War 2, more so than it's specialized collapse predating or postdating the fall of the Third Reich.

It's just a question of if Hydra persisted past the death of the Red Skull and Captain America.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:55 AM   #862
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Except Hydra is (apparently) gone. In the second episode, Coulson's ex made a reference to the fall of Hydra. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the just went underground, but as far as anyone knows they're not an issue anymore.
HYDRA is already set to appear in the Captain America movie, so they are far from gone.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:58 AM   #863
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One. Just because it fell, it doesn't mean that it couldn't have bounced.

Two. Cut one head off, two more grow back.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:59 AM   #864
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One. Just because it fell, it doesn't mean that it couldn't have bounced.

Two. Cut one head off, two more grow back.
But enough about your sex life!
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Old October 14 2013, 03:50 AM   #865
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I'm kind of hoping that eventually we'll start to see more of the groups and organizations from the comics just obviously adapted to fit the MCU. I suppose they wanted a few episodes to let the cast have a chance to get their feet wet before they start devoting screen time to building up the bad guys - after all with only what? About 120-ish minutes of screen time to get the main cast introduced and give them some time to do something - if they would have started building the bad guys up too much too early, we'd be getting like 20 minutes of bad guys and about 20 minutes of the good guys to try and like them.
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Old October 14 2013, 06:17 AM   #866
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I'm just waiting for the Season 3 episode that follows around a Hydra team trying to grab the Alien tech before Coulsen's squad.
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Old October 14 2013, 07:03 AM   #867
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^"Cops" shaky cam style?
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Old October 14 2013, 07:34 AM   #868
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I'm just glad it's not as bad as Torchwood.
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Old October 14 2013, 01:25 PM   #869
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So what the two of you are saying is that if someone else who is not the two of you wants to make a constant 60 minute block in the week to have a steamy extramarital affair, all they have to do is show the wife Marvel Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and that they are sorted with 60 minutes of complete abandoned freedom to play around inside of?

Really?

really?

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Don't know if somebody's already brought this up, but regarding the Coulson/LMD theory, wouldn't it tie in nicely with the established MCU (and his fixation with old things) if he turned out to be Phineas Horton's synthetic man...?
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