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Old October 12 2013, 06:04 PM   #826
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

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Based on the easter egg at the end of episode 3, am I the only one who thinks Dr. Hall is going to come back super OP??
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Old October 12 2013, 06:08 PM   #827
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Based on the easter egg at the end of episode 3, am I the only one who thinks Dr. Hall is going to come back super OP??
It's just you. Such an idea is preposterous.

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Old October 12 2013, 06:42 PM   #828
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Based on the easter egg at the end of episode 3, am I the only one who thinks Dr. Hall is going to come back super OP??
NOOO!!!!
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Old October 12 2013, 08:31 PM   #829
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Based on the easter egg at the end of episode 3, am I the only one who thinks Dr. Hall is going to come back super OP??
I don't know what "super OP" is, but Dr. Hall, in the comics, is a super-villain called "Graviton" with complete mastery over gravity.
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Old October 12 2013, 08:48 PM   #830
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Old October 13 2013, 12:01 AM   #831
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Apart from this Shield ep I'm only familiar with Graviton from the first few eps of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes s1.

Is Graviton a recurring villain in the Marvel universe? Seems to me Magneto is often seen as a definite A-list bad guy (sometimes good guy) who's a huge threat in the MU... yet he can just control metal. Whereas Graviton could pretty much just do anything, control anything. I just kinda wondered why I'd never heard of him before. Someone that powerful shouldn't just be a minor villain
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Old October 13 2013, 12:30 AM   #832
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Episode 3... That was a Leverage episode, really, but with less wit, rather than a Marvel show, IMO.
I'm not getting the connection to Leverage. They didn't steal anything or con anyone.
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Old October 13 2013, 12:36 AM   #833
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Apart from this Shield ep I'm only familiar with Graviton from the first few eps of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes s1.

Is Graviton a recurring villain in the Marvel universe? Seems to me Magneto is often seen as a definite A-list bad guy (sometimes good guy) who's a huge threat in the MU... yet he can just control metal. Whereas Graviton could pretty much just do anything, control anything. I just kinda wondered why I'd never heard of him before. Someone that powerful shouldn't just be a minor villain

sometimes it's more about the character than the powers. Also, if none of the writers at marvel do anything with the guy, well than he won't ever make the A-list.
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Graviton's been at the high end of the "B-list" despite the nature of his powers for a long time, and a recurrent foe of first the Avengers and later the Busiek/Nicieza-era Thunderbolts.
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Old October 13 2013, 02:16 AM   #835
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22 episodes, really? Its not 1995 anymore. All that says to me is "lots of filler crap coming your way."

13 standard, 16 or so max, we don't need more than that, not nowadays. The only show left I watch with 22 is Supernatural, and god the last two seasons have had soooo much filler.


With the way a lot of people watch TV shows now (after the season/s are done, via dvd, netflix, illegal internet, whatever) I'd say 22 actually puts people off. I know a friend of mine was put off BSG for a while because of its 20 episode seasons (2, 3, and sort of 4 anyway)

Breaking Bad
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American Horror Story
Dexter
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22 episode season? Fuck that.

It depends pm the quality of the show and the story that needs to be told.

Korean Historical Dramas usually START at 50,and have gone to 100 to 200 episodes, and been just as intriguing.

But since they are based on history, they don't have to pad it as much as elaborate on actual events.
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Old October 13 2013, 02:42 AM   #836
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Shorter seasons work well for seriels or shows that are strongly arc based. I don't consider well-written stand alone episodes to be filler at all. Many shows have used season arcs but also included outstanding individual episodes.
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Old October 13 2013, 05:49 AM   #837
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I don't understand the reaction to the show having 22 episodes. Almost every show on the networks have at least 20 episodes. A lot of the popular cable shows are even starting to have close to 20 episodes a lot of the time now.
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Old October 13 2013, 10:23 AM   #838
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Episode 3... That was a Leverage episode, really, but with less wit, rather than a Marvel show, IMO.
I'm not getting the connection to Leverage. They didn't steal anything or con anyone.
I'm just thinking a general vibe- Skye with the earbud infiltrating the guy's office, pretend (or is it) double-cross... Not a specific plotline
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Old October 13 2013, 11:07 AM   #839
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Shorter seasons work well for seriels or shows that are strongly arc based. I don't consider well-written stand alone episodes to be filler at all. Many shows have used season arcs but also included outstanding individual episodes.
Season three of Buffy is the gold standard for this kind of thing, IMHO, with the main season arc existing mainly as a slow burn in the background of some early episodes, interspersed with the occasional pivotal episode and undergoing a gain in momentum as the season progressed. As such it made a virtue of the season length (22 episodes). I'll be surprised if this approach isn't taken in Agents Of SHIELD.
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Old October 13 2013, 02:01 PM   #840
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Yeah, Buffy set the standard that has been followed with others in a quasi-serialized setting (notably with the new Doctor Who, but also with shows like Burn Notice that usually had a more overt ongoing plot at the beginning and end of episodes before a stand alone episode in the middle).

That being said, while there's certainly two ongoing character plots (with Skye and Coulson), there doesn't really seem to be an ongoing bad guy or threat just yet that's been hinted at in more than one episode.
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