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Old October 11 2013, 07:55 PM   #811
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

I don't think the problem is so much "non-stop action", as it is a desire to move through the story as fast as possible. There's almost never any time to slow down and have a serious or thoughtful moment, which is something I think the show really needs more of.

Even when the show does try to slow down (to, say, delve into the backgrounds of Skye and Ward), it has to be through some kind of training sequence. Or the scene is so packed full of cute quips that it's hard to really take seriously.
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Old October 11 2013, 11:23 PM   #812
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Very 80's you say? Coulson loves it when a plan comes together.
When gunfights result in bad guys dusting themselves off after exiting flipped-over vehicles, I am officially outta here.
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Old October 12 2013, 12:00 AM   #813
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Very 80's you say? Coulson loves it when a plan comes together.
When gunfights result in bad guys dusting themselves off after exiting flipped-over vehicles, I am officially outta here.
I'm out when they go to help the cute single-mother from the evil biker gang of ex-husbands.
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Old October 12 2013, 12:22 AM   #814
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Very 80's you say? Coulson loves it when a plan comes together.
When gunfights result in bad guys dusting themselves off after exiting flipped-over vehicles, I am officially outta here.
The opening skirmishes of episode 2 came close, for all the bullets flying I think there was only one body seen peripherally shot.
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Old October 12 2013, 12:49 AM   #815
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

Two quick questions:

Which "DRTC" do you suppose Quinn was talking about in his promotional speech re: Gravitonium?

How to rationalize atomic # 123 for Gravitonium?
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Old October 12 2013, 01:16 AM   #816
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Very 80's you say? Coulson loves it when a plan comes together.
When gunfights result in bad guys dusting themselves off after exiting flipped-over vehicles, I am officially outta here.
I'm out when they go to help the cute single-mother from the evil biker gang of ex-husbands.
And they take a kid's piggy bank as their only form of payment!

And Ward says he ain't gettin' on no plane flown by no damn crazy woman!
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Old October 12 2013, 04:42 AM   #817
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Any idea why Coulson didn't slingshot the black gravity goo at the end ? I thought 0-8-4 suggested that this was standard operating procedure for powerful crap they can't control? I didn't get any impression that Coulson thinks Dr Hall is alive .
He was honoring Hall's wish to keep the discovery of the gravitonium secret. If it were launched into space, there'd be an official record of its existence. SHIELD would know it was out there to be found, somewhere on Earth. (After all, Quinn surely didn't mine the only quantity of it anywhere on the planet. If there was one deposit, there must be more.) And Coulson knew Hall wasn't entirely wrong in his fears that SHIELD would exploit that power for weapons -- as they did with the "Phase 2" weapons based on Tesseract/HYDRA tech before.
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Old October 12 2013, 04:47 AM   #818
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My wife has officially informed me that if I wish to continue watching this show, I may proceed to do so alone.
LOL, my wife watched the second episode with me. She told me that she was glad that Coulson was alive and hopes to see him in the movies because she won't be watching the series with me.
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Old October 12 2013, 05:42 AM   #819
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So what the two of you are saying is that if someone else who is not the two of you wants to make a constant 60 minute block in the week to have a steamy extramarital affair, all they have to do is show the wife Marvel Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and that they are sorted with 60 minutes of complete abandoned freedom to play around inside of?

Really?

really?

Because that's not cool.
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Old October 12 2013, 07:07 AM   #820
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This show continues to be dumb and bland. I'm not foreseeing a long run.
You've obviously never heard of a little franchise called NCIS.
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Old October 12 2013, 10:24 AM   #821
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Having May just turn around and decide that whatever happened wasn't all that bad after all. It is just lazy. I'm not asking for "grimdark", just drama.
I suspect this will be the focus of an episode now that she's back in the field. Coulson knew she was wasting her talent at a desk job and she must have known that accepting his offer was the first step in getting back into action. In this episode, she realized that she can't sit back and drive the bus and let Coulson do her job for her. Next she'll have to have that crucial moment where she gets past whatever's blocking her.

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I think the "22 episodes is too much!" theory is garbage. Do shows need 22 episodes? Of course not, but there's also no reason 22 episodes can't be fun and used well.
I completely agree. With good writers, there can be any number of episodes. Back in the 50s and 60s, some shows had 30 or 40 episodes in a season. These short seasons can be very frustrating.

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It's funny how different people perceive the same thing because "not-stop action" is not at all how I would characterize this show.
I agree with this, too. Non-stop action bores me. I actually fell asleep twice during the Avengers movie and had to rewind-- only to find that I didn't actually miss anything. But SHIELD doesn't bore me at all.
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Old October 12 2013, 11:37 AM   #822
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I don't think the problem is so much "non-stop action", as it is a desire to move through the story as fast as possible. There's almost never any time to slow down and have a serious or thoughtful moment, which is something I think the show really needs more of.

Even when the show does try to slow down (to, say, delve into the backgrounds of Skye and Ward), it has to be through some kind of training sequence. Or the scene is so packed full of cute quips that it's hard to really take seriously.
Totally agree with this. I also agree with another poster who said there hasn't been a moment yet that's made me think, 'Oh wow, that's awesome!'

I did think the third episode was an improvement, although it still wasn't perfect. I liked Quinn, I thought he was quite a charismatic bad guy. The scenes where the gravity was messed up was pretty cool. I liked it when Skye took the gun and then when asked if she had what it took to pull the trigger so said 'nope' and jumped out of the window.

I also liked the little hints with Coulson's muscle memory, although I am wondering how long this mystery will last, and if they're going to continue to hint at it in every episode.

I think it's a shame that Fitz and Simmons weren't involved more, I thought given that Hall was their old professor there was a chance to learn more about them.

But it's still pretty generic and there's no spark to the show.
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Old October 12 2013, 01:16 PM   #823
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Caught the third episode. It's my favorite so far. Finally they have a recurring villain, and one that appears formidable enough, and they finally get their first supervillain. Not sure if I'm buying the guy playing Dr. Hall as being threatening, but once he returns I might as Graviton I might. Granted I know next to nothing about Graviton so it shouldn't be a hard sell.
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Old October 12 2013, 02:45 PM   #824
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Well, a quick look at Graviton's wikipedia page suggests a reluctant villain, so it's kind of fitting. In his very first appearance, he attacks a laboratory and lifts it into the air. He's defeated when he's convinced that one of the scientists, who he cares about, has committed suicide (which causes him to panic and lose control of his powers).
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Old October 12 2013, 04:14 PM   #825
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Episode 3... That was a Leverage episode, really, but with less wit, rather than a Marvel show, IMO.
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