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Old May 29 2014, 07:07 PM   #5836
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

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I think Stan's proper title is The Man, so whenever somebody says something like "working for The Man" he's their boss. That's how he can be everywhere and run everything.
I always just thought it was his middle name?
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Old May 29 2014, 09:05 PM   #5837
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I was going back over some stuff. I noticed that in "Ragtag" Fitz almost killed Garrett by shorting out his cybernetics with an EMP. That got me wondering. Do Stark's Iron Man suits have any protection against EMPs?
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Old May 29 2014, 09:51 PM   #5838
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Do Stark's Iron Man suits have any protection against EMPs?
The climax of The Avengers would suggest not, since the suit was knocked out by the nuclear explosion. Except that EMPs are caused by nukes going off in atmosphere, not in outer space, so that shouldn't have happened. Basically, EMPs in fiction work nothing like they do in real life.
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Old May 29 2014, 10:50 PM   #5839
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^I just thought Ironman used all his energy to push the missile into the wormhole.
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Old May 29 2014, 10:50 PM   #5840
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Do Stark's Iron Man suits have any protection against EMPs?
The climax of The Avengers would suggest not, since the suit was knocked out by the nuclear explosion. Except that EMPs are caused by nukes going off in atmosphere, not in outer space, so that shouldn't have happened. Basically, EMPs in fiction work nothing like they do in real life.
That was supposed to be an EMP? I'd assumed he just expended all power getting there. Pretty sure there's a line in there somewhere about saving the last of it for the turn after he grabs the nuke.

Actually, now that I think about it I'm sure it wasn't supposed to be an EMP because the suit blacks out while he's still holding the thing and he's already falling back when it hits.
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Old May 30 2014, 12:53 AM   #5841
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In the comics, the Mk VIII armor (post-Armor Wars) used something that was called an EMP. It was a weapon of last resort because it knocked out everything in range, including the armor itself. That suggests the Iron Man suit wasn't shielded, but I don't think that weapon behaved like a real EMP either. As I recall, it simply suppressed the functions of electrical systems for a period of time rather than destroying them.

Still, it was so effective against tech-based villains that Tony started making it his "go-to" weapon despite its disadvantages. That ceased after he went up against the Mandarin and found out the hard way that it didn't affect the ten super-duper-high-tech Makluan rings. ("The hard way" means he had to face a fully-powered Mandarin with a nonfunctional suit of armor. Oops.) I don't think the weapon was used again after that.

I could be remembering some of it incorrectly, though.
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Old May 30 2014, 01:26 AM   #5842
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The power display for the HUD is dangerously low, red and flashing, it then cuts out as the last of the suits power goes.

Plus, the Chitauri dimension is an atmosphere of some kind, everyone in it is standing around, breathing, walking, talking and generally not dying while standing in exposed space.

And it seems to cover a large enough area to hold a few small planetoids and the invasion force, it's mothership, Thanos' throne for goodness sake.

It's space...filled with air.
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Old May 30 2014, 01:26 AM   #5843
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At that point, the armour was knocked out for 6 minutes.

There was a ticking clock until it rebooted inside the facemask.

It's difficult for Iron Man to shield his own armour from the pulse generator when the pulse generator is inside his own armour.

The earlier armour wasn't as heavy as the warmachine (black/grey that Rhodey wears.) which left the pilot immobily weighed done.

Tony stole the EMP tech from the "Force" armour which was piloted by a henchman of Justin hammer who wimped out and said no to evil.

Armour Wars.

Soooooooooooooooooooo long ago.
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Old May 30 2014, 01:51 AM   #5844
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The power display for the HUD is dangerously low, red and flashing, it then cuts out as the last of the suits power goes.

Plus, the Chitauri dimension is an atmosphere of some kind, everyone in it is standing around, breathing, walking, talking and generally not dying while standing in exposed space.

And it seems to cover a large enough area to hold a few small planetoids and the invasion force, it's mothership, Thanos' throne for goodness sake.

It's space...filled with air.
Soooo... the Chitauri are from the Negative Zone?

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Armour Wars.

Soooooooooooooooooooo long ago.
And we're still dealing with the consequences.

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Well, the Gremlin is still dead, at least.
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Old May 30 2014, 09:05 AM   #5845
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Pretty sure the Chitauri--like every other portal adjacent "realm" seen thus far--are just in another region of our universe, not a separate one all of their own. The place where the wormhole opens is clearly deep space. As to their being able to survive there, clearly they have pretty extensive cybernetics which includes a face mask.

The planetoid where the other spoke to Loki and Thanos could be nearby and have a thin atmosphere...or it's possible none of them were ever physically there at all. I mean we know Loki was able to project himself there (possibly with the aid of the mind-gem staff), who's to say Thanos and The Other weren't also projections? Seems unlikely that with all he has going on, Thanos is going to actually be hanging out on some barren rock. More likely he's just there to oversee the staging ground for the invasion.
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Old May 30 2014, 09:49 AM   #5846
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Not really the type of cybernetics we're talking about, but nice try.
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Old May 30 2014, 10:03 AM   #5847
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Looks like a robot.

The next post will be a link to a hair care website riddled with viruses.

RJ, you're trying to converse with AI.
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Old May 30 2014, 12:35 PM   #5848
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^I just thought Ironman used all his energy to push the missile into the wormhole.

Me too. Iron Man laid down on the wire so his friends could make it. If he didn't take the bomb away, only 2 Avengers would have survived.
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Old May 30 2014, 01:55 PM   #5849
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^And Coulson, eventually.
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Old May 30 2014, 04:11 PM   #5850
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Not really the type of cybernetics we're talking about, but nice try.
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Looks like a robot.

The next post will be a link to a hair care website riddled with viruses.

RJ, you're trying to converse with AI.
Yes, but it almost works. After all, Deathlok's hairline could use the help.
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