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Old May 12 2014, 04:39 PM   #5521
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

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Which allows for the show to have that 'super' feel to it that the detractors didn't like about the first 1/2 of this season. I guess then the complaint will be "formularic super foe of the week epidose".
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Old May 12 2014, 06:19 PM   #5522
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Which allows for the show to have that 'super' feel to it that the detractors didn't like about the first 1/2 of this season. I guess then the complaint will be "formularic super foe of the week epidose".
Well, at least it has a btter shot than the Flash Gordon TV series. They wasted the 1st half with lame earth Based stories (presumably to save money), and goofy versions of classic Gordon characters, like the hawkmen, who were regular guys with "flying capes" & running around squawking.

The 2nd 1/2 got to a more modernized Flash Gordon feel.

AoS should be able to "feel" better next season.
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Old May 12 2014, 06:42 PM   #5523
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Well, at least it has a btter shot than the Flash Gordon TV series. They wasted the 1st half with lame earth Based stories (presumably to save money), and goofy versions of classic Gordon characters, like the hawkmen, who were regular guys with "flying capes" & running around squawking.

The 2nd 1/2 got to a more modernized Flash Gordon feel.
Actually it was more like the first 1/3 and the second 2/3 of the season. Of the first seven episodes (counting the pilot as 2 parts as it is on the DVDs), five were split between Earth and Mongo (usually weighted toward Earth) and two were almost entirely Earthbound. After that, though, only one and a half of the remaining 15 episodes were Earth-centric.

http://christopherlbennett.wordpress...orth-watching/

Basically, if you can make it through the first DVD in the box set, the remaining three are much more solid.
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Old May 12 2014, 07:15 PM   #5524
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Which allows for the show to have that 'super' feel to it that the detractors didn't like about the first 1/2 of this season. I guess then the complaint will be "formularic super foe of the week epidose".
Season 1 was difficult, because they wanted to react to all the hell that broke lose in TWS, but the first half + of the season was just set up to get to that point.
I hope season 2 will allow them to find their own rythm. I have faith, but then again I had faith in the Stargate producers too...
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Old May 12 2014, 11:31 PM   #5525
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I do hope they stick to their movie/television crossover formula. Guardians of the Galaxy was covered (I think) with the blue alien. I believe the next season will start after AoU, Ant-Man, and Doctor Strange but I bet they'll back story them like Iron Man 3's extremis.
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Old May 12 2014, 11:46 PM   #5526
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So, in light of what we learned about Garrett's condition last episode, does anyone else think that his choice in music was informed by the fact that he himself is facing the reaper?

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Old May 13 2014, 12:05 AM   #5527
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That song now has at least three contextual meanings for SHIELD purposes: Coulson's been dragged away from the reaper by Fury's choices. SHIELD as an organization may well have fallen to the reaper.

And then, as you suggest, there's John Garrett.

I'll be somewhat disappointed if it's not included in the Season One soundtrack.
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Old May 13 2014, 12:17 AM   #5528
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A non-spoiler review calls Beginning of the End, "by far, the most well put together episode of the series to date."

And apparently, the AoS finale will have consequences across the larger MCU...

"From the first scene, 'Beginning of the End'... hits the ground running, and all the built-up tension of the last 22 episodes is released into 60 minutes of pure pay off. The best part, however? Within all that making good, the series finally stands its ground and stakes its claim as a member of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. How does one do that? By establishing world changing consequences that don’t just affect one MCU franchise, but all of them."
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"While it began as an experiment by Marvel to see just how expansive they could make their game-changing Hollywood universe, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has now become a statement on the company itself. As much as fans love the films, what Marvel’s daring to say with this season finale is “everything we do matters, and you need to pay attention to all of it.”
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Old May 13 2014, 12:31 AM   #5529
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AoS should probably cross over with Every new Marvel movie that Marvel still owns.

This probably means that each subsequent season, or at least a cluster of episodes surrounding each movies release will be coloured and flavoured by the movie that is being released.
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Old May 13 2014, 12:41 AM   #5530
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Turtletrekker wrote: View Post
A non-spoiler review calls Beginning of the End, "by far, the most well put together episode of the series to date."

And apparently, the AoS finale will have consequences across the larger MCU...

"From the first scene, 'Beginning of the End'... hits the ground running, and all the built-up tension of the last 22 episodes is released into 60 minutes of pure pay off. The best part, however? Within all that making good, the series finally stands its ground and stakes its claim as a member of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. How does one do that? By establishing world changing consequences that don’t just affect one MCU franchise, but all of them."
and...
"While it began as an experiment by Marvel to see just how expansive they could make their game-changing Hollywood universe, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has now become a statement on the company itself. As much as fans love the films, what Marvel’s daring to say with this season finale is “everything we do matters, and you need to pay attention to all of it.”
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Old May 13 2014, 01:18 AM   #5531
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I believe the next season will start after AoU, Ant-Man, and Doctor Strange but I bet they'll back story them like Iron Man 3's extremis.
Shield's next season will start this fall. Well before any of those movies premiere. In fact, season 2 will be mostly/completely over before they premiere.
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Old May 13 2014, 01:21 AM   #5532
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Turtletrekker, good to see the possibility of things reverberating back to the movies. So far, the only Lorelei seemed to hint at that possibility.

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I do hope they stick to their movie/television crossover formula. Guardians of the Galaxy was covered (I think) with the blue alien. I believe the next season will start after AoU, Ant-Man, and Doctor Strange but I bet they'll back story them like Iron Man 3's extremis.
Next season will start after Guardians of the Galaxy and will end before Age of Ultron. Ant-Man won't be until the summer after that (unless I missed something and you're talking about season 3?). GOTG is part of the reason I think season 2 will have a big Kree connection (that and Skye's monster parents).
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Old May 13 2014, 02:46 AM   #5533
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

MTV's review is even better (it occurs to me that given Marvel's notorious secrecy, that they must be extremely confident in this episode to be releasing in advance to reviewers).

On Nick Fury...



On Coulson's resurrection...
One of the major threads running throughout this season has been the resurrection of Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg). We know now how he came back (machines, alien blood), but not why. Why was it so important to bring Coulson back from the dead, when S.H.I.E.L.D. agents die every day? This hour we get an answer to that, why Coulson is important. And it’s a surprisingly emotional coda that not only ties up season one, but acts as an afterword to the events of “The Avengers.”
MCU connections...
This one we’re going to dodge around even more extensively than the others, but we can say that the episode does not tee up the next Marvel Studios movie, “Guardians of the Galaxy” — unless there’s an explicit connection we missed. It does, however, tie into a number of other movies quite nicely, which is neat.
And there is other very cool stuff in the article. Nothing any more spoilery than the Fury "spoiler" above.
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Old May 13 2014, 03:13 AM   #5534
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I didn't know the next season would be released so soon.
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Old May 13 2014, 03:27 AM   #5535
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That song now has at least three contextual meanings for SHIELD purposes: Coulson's been dragged away from the reaper by Fury's choices. SHIELD as an organization may well have fallen to the reaper.

And then, as you suggest, there's John Garrett.

I'll be somewhat disappointed if it's not included in the Season One soundtrack.
And here I just thought it was a pun on him being chased by a pair of reaper drones. Yes, I know they weren't *actual* reaper drones, but still...
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