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Old March 20 2014, 09:55 AM   #3796
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Re: Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

The special actually did a good job of making the movies seem appealing. Everybody involved seemed to have grown up with Marvel and have respect for the characters, Captain America in particular. It's too bad the current state of Marvel Comics doesn't live up to that hype.

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^It really should be though, don't you think?

May is at least as tough as Ward (probably more) and if a male character like, say Loki had done to May what was done to Ward then there'd be no hesitation in calling it what it is.
But that's the double standard, not reality. May is as at least as tough as Ward and has had the same job for at least as long, so if she were portrayed consistently it wouldn't be such a big deal to her either. Ever read Friday? But, of course, politically, it couldn't be portrayed that way on TV.
Every woman who goes into military situations has to accept this as a possibility if she is captured. Playing the situation off as so light just because it is a male character showed a lack of taste, I thought.
We're not talking about being in a war zone, getting captured, beaten, and gang raped. We're talking about people who are like James Bond, who use sex to manipulate and infiltrate. She didn't do anything to him that he hasn't done to others before-- the only difference being the mind control, which would be the part he'd have difficulty dealing with.
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Old March 20 2014, 10:05 AM   #3797
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Yeah?

I think the baby is what he'll have the most difficult time dealing with.

Then when he finally gets custody after a season long war with the woman, S.H.I.E.L.D. starts talking about shooting Ward Junior into the sun... Um, in Thor One, if they had managed to get Mjolnir into a rocket and fired it at the sun, isn't there a chance that the Hammer would have knocked the sun loose from the rest of the solar system?
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Old March 20 2014, 12:33 PM   #3798
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I watched the special. I thought it was hilarious that they spent all of 15 seconds talking about "The Incredible Hulk" movie
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Old March 20 2014, 12:53 PM   #3799
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I watched the special. I thought it was hilarious that they spent all of 15 seconds talking about "The Incredible Hulk" movie
From what they did show, I got the impression it was more that they wanted to avoid showing Edward Norton on screen, or mentioning him at all in the interviews.

"The Incredible Hulk" (2008) had its faults, but I enjoyed it and it still meshes well as far as plot points, with the other MCU movies.
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Old March 20 2014, 01:03 PM   #3800
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Yeah?

I think the baby is what he'll have the most difficult time dealing with.

Then when he finally gets custody after a season long war with the woman, S.H.I.E.L.D. starts talking about shooting Ward Junior into the sun... Um, in Thor One, if they had managed to get Mjolnir into a rocket and fired it at the sun, isn't there a chance that the Hammer would have knocked the sun loose from the rest of the solar system?
Now there's a question for Neil Tyson - could you knock the sun out of the solar system, or would the solar system follow the sun?

Actually, I guess if you flick the sun away, the planets will just go flying off in whatever direction they're heading when the sun's gravity goes away.
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Old March 20 2014, 01:15 PM   #3801
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Every woman who goes into military situations has to accept this as a possibility if she is captured. Playing the situation off as so light just because it is a male character showed a lack of taste, I thought.
We're not talking about being in a war zone, getting captured, beaten, and gang raped. We're talking about people who are like James Bond, who use sex to manipulate and infiltrate. She didn't do anything to him that he hasn't done to others before-- the only difference being the mind control, which would be the part he'd have difficulty dealing with.
But I'm sure if the roles were reversed and it was a male Asgardian who mind controlled a female James Bond like character making her have sex with him, the episode would have a different tone, especially if her male teammate hits her for admitting she settling for him after everything she went through.

I also like to add, I feel really sorry for Ward's penis. Asgardians are dense enough to take a hit from the Hulk. Unless Lorelei gave Ward a spell to make him stone hard, he shouldn't have much left of his manhood.
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Old March 20 2014, 02:21 PM   #3802
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Now there's a question for Neil Tyson - could you knock the sun out of the solar system, or would the solar system follow the sun?

Actually, I guess if you flick the sun away, the planets will just go flying off in whatever direction they're heading when the sun's gravity goes away.
Depends on how hard you "flick." Keep in mind that the Sun is already moving through space at nearly half a million miles per hour as it orbits the center of the galaxy, and it has no trouble holding the planets in orbit around it as it does so. Some physicists and writers have proposed methods for using controlled flares or Shkadov thrusters to turn stars into giant rocket engines that pull their planetary systems (or Ringworlds) with them.

And of course, the Sun isn't a soccer ball, it's a big dense cloud of hydrogen gas. Any force that could accelerate it to enough speed that it wouldn't have time to pull the planets with it would probably blow the Sun apart in the process.
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Old March 20 2014, 06:28 PM   #3803
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Every woman who goes into military situations has to accept this as a possibility if she is captured. Playing the situation off as so light just because it is a male character showed a lack of taste, I thought.
We're not talking about being in a war zone, getting captured, beaten, and gang raped. We're talking about people who are like James Bond, who use sex to manipulate and infiltrate. She didn't do anything to him that he hasn't done to others before-- the only difference being the mind control, which would be the part he'd have difficulty dealing with.
But I'm sure if the roles were reversed and it was a male Asgardian who mind controlled a female James Bond like character making her have sex with him, the episode would have a different tone, especially if her male teammate hits her for admitting she settling for him after everything she went through.

I also like to add, I feel really sorry for Ward's penis. Asgardians are dense enough to take a hit from the Hulk. Unless Lorelei gave Ward a spell to make him stone hard, he shouldn't have much left of his manhood.
Loki took over a couple people, including Banner.
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Old March 20 2014, 06:30 PM   #3804
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Yeah?

I think the baby is what he'll have the most difficult time dealing with.

Then when he finally gets custody after a season long war with the woman, S.H.I.E.L.D. starts talking about shooting Ward Junior into the sun... Um, in Thor One, if they had managed to get Mjolnir into a rocket and fired it at the sun, isn't there a chance that the Hammer would have knocked the sun loose from the rest of the solar system?
Now there's a question for Neil Tyson - could you knock the sun out of the solar system, or would the solar system follow the sun?

Actually, I guess if you flick the sun away, the planets will just go flying off in whatever direction they're heading when the sun's gravity goes away.
According to this, we should be more worried about Thor dropping his hammer.
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Old March 20 2014, 06:43 PM   #3805
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We're not talking about being in a war zone, getting captured, beaten, and gang raped. We're talking about people who are like James Bond, who use sex to manipulate and infiltrate. She didn't do anything to him that he hasn't done to others before-- the only difference being the mind control, which would be the part he'd have difficulty dealing with.
But I'm sure if the roles were reversed and it was a male Asgardian who mind controlled a female James Bond like character making her have sex with him, the episode would have a different tone, especially if her male teammate hits her for admitting she settling for him after everything she went through.

I also like to add, I feel really sorry for Ward's penis. Asgardians are dense enough to take a hit from the Hulk. Unless Lorelei gave Ward a spell to make him stone hard, he shouldn't have much left of his manhood.
Loki took over a couple people, including Banner.
But Loki didn't rape anyone or Banner, thankfully.
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Old March 20 2014, 06:52 PM   #3806
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The question is, is mindrape/possession more traumatizing than sexrape?

Then of course, after you've been mindraped, would you be more worried about all the people you were forced to murder, or all the people you were forced to frakk?

Would you rather wake up clueless covered in someone's blood, or covered in their sperm?
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Old March 20 2014, 07:59 PM   #3807
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The question is, is mindrape/possession more traumatizing than sexrape?

Then of course, after you've been mindraped, would you be more worried about all the people you were forced to murder, or all the people you were forced to frakk?

Would you rather wake up clueless covered in someone's blood, or covered in their sperm?
Depends. Do you want to spend the rest of your life in jail, or just with a bad taste in your mouth.
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There was funny talk a while back about Julia Louie-Drefus guesting on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

But what if Clark was to Guest on Veep, as some one exactly like Coulson who doesn't say he isn't from S.H.I.E.L.D. and doesn't say that he isn't Coulson.
The only thing I can't figure out is, which would be the most awsome.
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Old March 20 2014, 09:12 PM   #3809
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Patton Oswald to guest as Agent Eric Koenig.
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It's nice that they're putting more and more comic book characters in the show.
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