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Old September 26 2013, 03:10 PM   #166
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"Trust us, you won't want to miss the very end of every episode."


An interesting theory at the link suggests that this means that every episode will do a post-credits scene ala the movies. Why not? The last two "One-Shots" did and, as the article also notes, their advertisers will love them for it.

Also-- over 30 pics from "0-8-4" and "The Asset".
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Old September 26 2013, 06:34 PM   #167
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Was there a teaser at the end of the pilot after the credits? The last scene I recall was the flying car bit.
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Old September 26 2013, 07:21 PM   #168
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Was there a teaser at the end of the pilot after the credits?
No.
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Old September 26 2013, 07:42 PM   #169
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^It's 8 PM in the Eastern time zone. Though that's still early enough for family viewing.
Well, it's 7pm for me in Central and the first hour of prime time in any case.
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Old September 26 2013, 09:27 PM   #170
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While reactions from within the comics industry seem largely favorable, Jim Steranko was not impressed.
I totally agree with his take. The show really needed to be tougher and edgier, with a greater sense of danger.

Right now the tone is so cutesy and fun that it's hard to take anything all that seriously. It just feels like too much of a lark.
I also agreed with nearly everything Steranko said. Back when I was really into comics, Steranko was "The Dude".

But what the hell is this supposed to mean,
“Did anyone feel punted into P.C.-ville by the Hooded Hero being black?"
Huh? just because a black actor played the Hooded Hero, this was a nod to political correctness? How about, Whedon, who doesn't appear to have racial hang-ups, simply thought August Wilson was the best actor available for the job? Since Wilson was the only black actor in the episode with a significant role, Steranko apparently would have preferred there be no black actors in the episode.

I think Steranko just "punted" into Bull Connors' Birmingham, Alabama-ville.
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Old September 26 2013, 09:44 PM   #171
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Yeah, he kind of lost credibility after that remark.
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Old September 26 2013, 09:56 PM   #172
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The movies have all been more about amped up fun with a bit of humour, so I don't see the series as out of place. If anything felt out of place, it was the dark tones in Ironman 3.
Actually in my mind the movies (and SHIELD itself, thanks to Jackson's presence and gravitas) were all a lot more grounded and serious than this TV series was. They all had their light and jokey moments of course, but not to the degree we see here, where the characters are all joking and making wisecracks every 5 seconds, and the tone is light and cutesy as hell-- almost to the point of being a cartoon.

I'm not asking for this to be another dark and gritty 24 or anything, but it would be nice if the show at least took itself a little more seriously.
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Old September 26 2013, 10:06 PM   #173
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But what the hell is this supposed to mean,
“Did anyone feel punted into P.C.-ville by the Hooded Hero being black?"
Huh? just because a black actor played the Hooded Hero, this was a nod to political correctness? How about, Whedon, who doesn't appear to have racial hang-ups, simply thought August Wilson was the best actor available for the job? Since Wilson was the only black actor in the episode with a significant role, Steranko apparently would have preferred there be no black actors in the episode..
Steranko has since clarified on twitter (his twitter account is (mostly) AWESOME) that he would have liked for one of the actual heroes of the story to be black instead of the shady guy in the hoodie, but the P.C. thing remains a very strange statement that smacks of racism. It didn't help that he later tweeted, "Imagine if Andrew Dice Clay would be cast as Luke Cage!" referring to SLJ's casting as Nick Fury.
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Old September 26 2013, 10:11 PM   #174
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Square-Jaw and Wen Ming-Na both being reluctant heroes does not double the power of the cliche, it halves it. Nerd and Nerdette seem to have two major modes of characterizations, pointlessly squabbling with each other alternated with finishing each other's sentences. The C-cup street waif gets an origin story as yet another reluctant hero, which more or less takes the cube root of that theme. If Whedon et al. have such a problem with heroes, write something else.

I don't care about the continuity with the Avengers, and I don't care if "Coulson" is a robot, a clone, a zombie on brain pills, a hologram, an android, a typographical error.

I'll try again next week, the second pilot.
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Old September 26 2013, 10:44 PM   #175
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I'm not really sure what people were expecting with this show. I thought it was quite good, but a little bland. There's no homey set like The Library, Serenity, or The Hyperion. The characters are bland and I can barely tell them apart. However, there's nothing inherently wrong with the show. It just needs a little time to find itself and I'm sure it will get there sooner or later.
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Old September 26 2013, 11:19 PM   #176
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A fun blog post about the "tv hair" issue that plagues Agents of SHIELD (and many other network tv shows): http://cockeyedcaravan.blogspot.ca/2...r-edition.html
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But what the hell is this supposed to mean,
“Did anyone feel punted into P.C.-ville by the Hooded Hero being black?"
Huh? just because a black actor played the Hooded Hero, this was a nod to political correctness? How about, Whedon, who doesn't appear to have racial hang-ups, simply thought August Wilson was the best actor available for the job? Since Wilson was the only black actor in the episode with a significant role, Steranko apparently would have preferred there be no black actors in the episode.
Seems doubly odd since he was an original character, and they had a blank slate for casting him with no preconceptions from the comics.

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Actually in my mind the movies (and SHIELD itself, thanks to Jackson's presence and gravitas) were all a lot more grounded and serious than this TV series was. They all had their light and jokey moments of course, but not to the degree we see here, where the characters are all joking and making wisecracks every 5 seconds, and the tone is light and cutesy as hell-- almost to the point of being a cartoon.
Um...Robert Downey, Jr....?

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Judging from the comments I've been reading on the net this morning, the flying car seems to be a real bone of contention, with some people hating it and some people loving it.
Is it safe to assume that we can put this guy in the "loving it" category?
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Old September 26 2013, 11:37 PM   #178
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Phil lives!
Um.

Read more comics.

You have a LiMiteD understanding of what's certainly happening.
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Old September 26 2013, 11:38 PM   #179
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Well, I was ambivalent about this show going in, but I was quite impressed. The supporting cast does lack a bit of charisma, but they're pretty good and Coulson has enough charisma for everybody. I was surprised and delighted that they actually populated the show with heroes and not fashionably twisted, drug-addicted, child-molesting, serial-killing, morally bankrupt and otherwise fucked up anti-heroes (and, yes, that was a little poem). Quite a shocker, since even Marvel corrupted all their characters a while back. And there was no shocking death of a major character at the end. Is the world finally growing up? Nah, doubt it.

But the show is off to a really good start (albeit with a couple of questionable moments, like Coulson drugging Ward) and I'll keep watching for the time being. I hope they can hang on to the positivism and optimism in the midst of this Dark Age-- and maybe even inspire a little light.
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Old September 27 2013, 12:17 AM   #180
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I had the closed-captioning on...
I re-watched it with closed captions and I could still barely follow Fitz and Simmons exchanges. Although, without the CC, I never would have caught the Harry Potter reference.
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