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Old September 24 2013, 08:34 PM   #16
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Re: Behind your Aft Nacelle

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Actually he rather carefully pronounces it as "behind the aft nacelle". Given Cumberbatches delivery and the captions/script matching up, chalk it up to random error of the writers.
Could whoever wrote that line be thinking the connecting-dorsal counted as the forward nacelle? From that POV "aft nacelle" makes sense.

Most likely: Writer didn't even realize what they were talking about when they wrote the line.
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Old September 24 2013, 08:39 PM   #17
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Actually he rather carefully pronounces it as "behind the aft nacelle". Given Cumberbatches delivery and the captions/script matching up, chalk it up to random error of the writers.
Could whoever wrote that line be thinking the connecting-dorsal counted as the forward nacelle? From that POV "aft nacelle" makes sense.

Most likely: Writer didn't even realize what they were talking about when they wrote the line.
Given the shape of the forward half of the secondary hull, it's possible that he meant the entire warp drive section of the ship. Which would put life support at the back of the brewery assembly, before the shuttlebay.

Possibly what Marcus was already shooting at when he kept targetting that part of the stardrive both at warp and as Carol hailed him.
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Old September 24 2013, 08:43 PM   #18
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I like how this post explains the "Aft Nacelle."
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Old September 25 2013, 04:08 AM   #19
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^ You know, I can almost buy that.
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Old September 25 2013, 04:53 AM   #20
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My fiancée is also a Trek Nerd...

Guess how she now occasionally refers to me when texting her BGF.
(I saw a message on her phone the other day)

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Old September 25 2013, 05:08 AM   #21
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He could have just fumbled the line. "Just aft of your nacelle" could come out as "Your aft nacelle". Just saying it's a possibility.
That's apparently how it was written in the script, if the ADF novelization is any indication. Cumberbatch just bombed the line.
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Old September 25 2013, 02:57 PM   #22
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With all the bombast from Orci about "I get to write movies and you don't" I am still wondering if there is an ounce of humility left for either he or the other writers to say 'we goofed' that line is total crap.
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Old September 25 2013, 10:10 PM   #23
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With all the bombast from Orci about "I get to write movies and you don't" I am still wondering if there is an ounce of humility left for either he or the other writers to say 'we goofed' that line is total crap.
The fact that anyone feels they are obligated to address this or apologize to fans for an incredibly minor technical writing mistake is all the more reason why they should never do it, ridiculous allegations about humility or not. That would just feed certain fan's already overinflated egos and sense of entitlement.

How can anyone seriously think this is something that needs to be addressed publicly by the production team? It doesn't even affect the story. Just acknowledge that it's a mistake on your own and move on. If they do say something about it (doubtful), so be it. But no one is owed an explanation, correction, or apology.
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Old September 26 2013, 12:31 AM   #24
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Each time I read "Behind your aft nacelle" it gets dirtier sounding in my head.
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Old September 26 2013, 01:55 AM   #25
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[QUOTE=Locutus of Bored;8691205]I will never get over fact that people feel the need to post repeatedly on a thread that they don't like the tone of to just feed their already over inflated ego and assume I gave a crap what they thought.

Honestly just wondering if Orci already responded to the Aft Nacelle line over on TrekMovie or elsewhere and thought someone here might actually know. I hadn't seen it but maybe another fan had.

Orci shouldn't be on the boards, in my opinion. The movies might be better if he wasn't but since he is, and answers questions, this is one I wondered if he had answered.

Go bully someone else, troll.
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Old September 26 2013, 02:40 AM   #26
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I will never get over fact that people feel the need to post repeatedly on a thread that they don't like the tone of to just feed their already over inflated ego and assume I gave a crap what they thought.

Honestly just wondering if Orci already responded to the Aft Nacelle line over on TrekMovie or elsewhere and thought someone here might actually know. I hadn't seen it but maybe another fan had.
I have no problem with the "tone" of your thread at all. In fact, I addressed your question, gave a theory of my own, and made a joke that wasn't a criticism of you in the slightest (notice I called myself a nerd as well), but rather a commentary on how the production staff probably feels when they read these things and a mild ribbing of Orci's response in the TrekMovie thread.

What I did object to was your prior post, and I gave my reasons why.

Orci shouldn't be on the boards, in my opinion.
Why shouldn't he be able to enjoy discussing Star Trek as much as the next person just because he works on it in a professional capacity?

Go bully someone else, troll.
That one's a problem. You can't go calling people out like that. Hit notify or PM the other mod if you have a problem with a post.

Infraction for flaming. Comments to PM.
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Old September 26 2013, 02:46 PM   #27
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I don't think that the writers/producers should be engaged in a dialogue with the fans during the creative process. Reading reviews or reaction to the film is one thing, but I believe GR even said it himself in an interview that the show should be made by writers and producers, not driven by the fans.

I will PM you, because even though you use repeatedly 'anyone', it is in a post where you quote only me, and by inference apply your demeaning remarks to me which I do not appreciate.
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Old September 26 2013, 03:39 PM   #28
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I believe GR even said it himself in an interview that the show should be made by writers and producers, not driven by the fans.
Do you have a link to that interview? I'm dying to paste those words onto other interviews where the writers who worked under Gene described him to be a living hell to work with.
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Old September 26 2013, 05:44 PM   #29
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I believe GR even said it himself in an interview that the show should be made by writers and producers, not driven by the fans.
Do you have a link to that interview? I'm dying to paste those words onto other interviews where the writers who worked under Gene described him to be a living hell to work with.
I wish I did, i think it was the set of interviews he did around 1988, with the grey background. Some of this was used in the From One Generation to the Next special.

It's either there or the Tom Snyder interview that I posted on YouTube (rm10475) if anyone wants to listen.

There is a question about the fans having direct input and he basically said no, that wasn't the best idea creatively.
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