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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Favorite/Best Regeneration Story
The Tenth Planet 1 2.50%
War Games 5 12.50%
Planet of the Spiders 1 2.50%
Logopolis 3 7.50%
Caves of Androzani 19 47.50%
The Enemy Within (The TV Movie) 0 0%
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways 8 20.00%
The End of Time 3 7.50%
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Old October 12 2013, 08:11 PM   #46
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Re: Best Regeneration Story

For some, he's their favorite even with that one series of his. At least for me, he is.

And yeah, I do wish he'd have stayed on, but at the same time, if he did, maybe Tennant would never have gotten the part. Who knows, really?

I'd certainly have liked some audio stories from him. Preferably for the 50th anniversary, of course.
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Old October 14 2013, 02:33 AM   #47
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Re: Best Regeneration Story

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Troughton and Pertwee almost favored one another, due to the camera angle, so the regeneration--while low tech, looked the most seamless to me.
Did you mean Hartnell and Troughton?

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I hated "The End of Time." I liked a lot of what they did with the Master but sometimes it seems like it's just a contest between Simm & Tennant to see who can go more over the top. And then Tennant's victory lap at the end takes too long, particularly since we'd already just revisited most of those companions 5 episodes earlier in "Journey's End." My favorite part of the entire episode is the last minute & a half when Matt Smith finally shows up.
Basically, this.
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Old October 18 2013, 08:47 AM   #48
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Re: Best Regeneration Story

Emperor-Tiberius wrote: View Post
The essence of the sacrifice of the Doctor is, he would do this for anyone of his companions, ever, under any circumnstances, and regardless of how well he knew them or not. He'd it for Peri whether he knew her just barely or for a while. This is never more confirmed than in the Tenth Doctor's sacrifice to save Wilfred, who's an old man anyway, but the Doctor won't have him die when he can save him - and in Caves, he won't have someone die because of him, because he brought her to that planet. It just doesn't get much better than this, really.
This regeneration is particularly poignant because of Adric. The Doctor never stopped feeling guilty that he couldn't save Adric, so for damn sure he wanted to save Peri (not that he wouldn't have saved her anyway). He didn't want to be responsible for the death of another Companion.


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Yeah, I think ultimately it was the writing that bothered me. Tegan's introduction sorta distracts from the importance of this being the Fourth Doctor's farewell, and poor Nyssa gets to have no real role other than to react to the destruction of Traken.

That said, one of the things I liked was that the E-Space trilogy occured because it was the Logopolitans that created the CVE's that led them in.
But Nyssa's reaction to the destruction of her people was intended to convey just how serious and deadly the Master's intentions were, and how imperative it was that he be stopped. He committed genocide on a mega-planetary scale, and how could the Doctor let him get away with it?

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(I've never actually seen Planet of the Spiders. )
Don't watch it if you have a spider phobia...

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I would have included a picture of present-day Tom Baker.
People seem to forget that Tom Baker's Doctor was aged in part of The Leisure Hive. He looked a lot older and more decrepit than RL Tom Baker looks today.

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I've only seen "Planet of the Spiders" once but I thought it was fun. I especially like the 1 or 2 episodes where it's just the Doctor getting into a series of assorted vehicle chases. It's like Jon Pertwee has this laundry list of vehicles he wanted to have chase scenes with during his tenure and realized that it was now or never.
Jon Pertwee actually owned the "Whomobile" (at least that's my understanding). He really wanted to use it on-screen, and the production people obliged. After all, this was a time when lots of people were into James Bond, so the wild and wacky vehicle chases fit right in.

The regeneration itself in "Logopolis" is quite good but the rest of the story feels off. Tom Baker just seems to have already mentally checked out of the show. He never really had much chemistry with Tegan, Nyssa, or Adric for that matter. Plus, with Anthony Ainley as the Master and a general lack of humor to the whole thing, it feels more like a prelude to the Peter Davison years rather than a fitting finale for the Tom Baker years.
As the Doctor says himself, he didn't choose for any of those Companions to be with him. Adric was a stowaway from another universe, Nyssa begged for his help, and Tegan was another stowaway (although not an intentional one). Considering the aggravation Adric had caused him and the fact that he'd basically just met Nyssa and Tegan, it's unreasonable to expect him to have a warm, fuzzy relationship with any of the three.
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Old October 25 2013, 10:55 PM   #49
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The regeneration itself in "Logopolis" is quite good but the rest of the story feels off. Tom Baker just seems to have already mentally checked out of the show. He never really had much chemistry with Tegan, Nyssa, or Adric for that matter. Plus, with Anthony Ainley as the Master and a general lack of humor to the whole thing, it feels more like a prelude to the Peter Davison years rather than a fitting finale for the Tom Baker years.
As the Doctor says himself, he didn't choose for any of those Companions to be with him. Adric was a stowaway from another universe, Nyssa begged for his help, and Tegan was another stowaway (although not an intentional one). Considering the aggravation Adric had caused him and the fact that he'd basically just met Nyssa and Tegan, it's unreasonable to expect him to have a warm, fuzzy relationship with any of the three.
Yes, his reaction to them is believable given the circumstances. It just doesn't feel like the right ending for him.
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