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Old September 21 2013, 11:03 AM   #16
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Re: The Robots From Prototype

Although I never realized it at the time, I love that they used actual head and arm props from Terminator 2 as robot parts, and just put a strip of duck tape over the mouth to disguise the distinctive Terminator teeth!

As for the episode, I thought they were pretty generic robots. Good enough to crop up once or twice more, but not as an ongoing villain.
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Old September 21 2013, 11:28 AM   #17
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Although I never realized it at the time, I love that they used actual head and arm props from Terminator 2 as robot parts, and just put a strip of duck tape over the mouth to disguise the distinctive Terminator teeth!
I can't say for sure that there is no Terminator arm (although I don't recall seeing one) I can say for sure that the 'taped mouth' robot head is most definitely not a Terminator prop.

I do remember seeing Johnny Five's arm though.
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Old September 21 2013, 11:50 AM   #18
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I know I read it somewhere. Let me find the link...
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Old September 21 2013, 12:54 PM   #19
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I'm pretty sure I recall reading it somewhere once, too. But still...

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Old September 21 2013, 04:28 PM   #20
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I'm pretty sure I recall reading it somewhere once, too. But still...

Great comparison! The Voyager one looks like some kind of Terminator head knock-off which they modified. Thanks.
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Old September 21 2013, 05:17 PM   #21
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Ha! I wouldn't be surprised if that was true!
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Old September 21 2013, 05:37 PM   #22
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I wouldn't either... though to give the benefit of the doubt, there are only so many ways you can do a robotic skull.
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Old September 21 2013, 08:17 PM   #23
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That's true.

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Those Automated Units never worked for me, because there's a huge flaw in the idea behind them, namely, the ship of Theseus.

So, I can use any old part to repair one of these bots and it will work. Arm, leg, brain, cooling system, whatever, and it will work. BUT I can't do it with the power supply. The power supply only works for one robot and one robot alone.

That just doesn't work...

Maybe it was designed that way to keep the robots from being a threat--it didn't work, as we all see.

The Heavenly Host did the null face even more creepily.
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Old September 22 2013, 01:08 AM   #24
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That's true.

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Those Automated Units never worked for me, because there's a huge flaw in the idea behind them, namely, the ship of Theseus.

So, I can use any old part to repair one of these bots and it will work. Arm, leg, brain, cooling system, whatever, and it will work. BUT I can't do it with the power supply. The power supply only works for one robot and one robot alone.

That just doesn't work...

Maybe it was designed that way to keep the robots from being a threat--it didn't work, as we all see.

The Heavenly Host did the null face even more creepily.
My point is that it COULDN'T be designed that way. If a power core won't work with a different robot, then why does it work if you replace half the components? The episode is contradicting itself.
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Old September 22 2013, 01:16 AM   #25
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I'm pretty sure I recall reading it somewhere once, too. But still...

Great comparison! The Voyager one looks like some kind of Terminator head knock-off which they modified. Thanks.
Looks like one of the droids from Star Wars...
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Old September 22 2013, 12:30 PM   #26
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Full on robotic enemies would be interesting, but not those robots.Their design and back story didn't work for that.

and yes the Kazon weren't working well, but this was well before the Borg even appeared so the producers couldn't say they were going to stuff it in the long run. As a pure concept it sounds a slam dunk.
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Old September 23 2013, 07:25 PM   #27
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Looks like one of the droids from Star Wars...


Tell me that droid in the background didn't end up in a later Star Wars movie.
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Old September 24 2013, 09:27 AM   #28
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lol
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Old September 24 2013, 05:03 PM   #29
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They tried repeatedly to create alien species that could be used in recurring roles. The Kazon, the Vidiians, the Krenim, the Hirogen, etc. The audience didn't like a single one of them and continually pointed out how it didn't make sense how a constantly moving ship shouldn't have recurring enemies.

What makes you think these robots would work out any better than any of those others? The audience already made it perfectly clear they didn't want any new aliens to begin with.
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Old September 24 2013, 09:08 PM   #30
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There are only so many ways that you can take a skull and mechanize it- the T2 one is one of my favorites. It would have been nice to have had some additional re-occurring villains on the show, mix things up a bit with the Hirogen and Vidians. The Robots could have been one if they developed the idea better for the one time you saw them.

Bill the Robot example reminded me of what does happen when you upgrade a computer too often- Windows detects too many changes and requires you to log on and re-register the OS before it will work again. I know this because the only thing original in my machine is the address it resides at...
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