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Old November 28 2013, 12:27 AM   #121
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Re: Favourite Trek Couple

I did think Miles and Julian made a cute couple. They certainly seemed to enjoy each other's company more than they did anyone else.
As for the backrub, yeah. Kirk is *really* into it when he thinks Spock is doing it, and puts a stop to it immediately when he realizes it's not Spock working on him. He looks disappointed. I really have no idea what that's supposed to be about if it's not gay. There are lots of little moments like that with K/S, open to interpretation, but sometimes the gay option is the one that makes the most sense, rather than bending over backwards to explain why what just happened wasn't really gay.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:45 AM   #122
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So..... hypothetically, could we point out our favourite slashy moments in this thread, or would that be too off-topic?
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Old November 28 2013, 01:08 AM   #123
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I don't think there's any kind of guide line that our favorite couples have to be canon couples.
We could maybe start a seperate thread for slash. On one hand I don't want to be shuffled off to a Star Trek gay ghetto, but besides a slash specific thread hopefully being a safer place for that topic without having to listen to bigots and haters, it also could be a place to discuss slash fan fiction and art, etc, which would potentially be off topic here.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:19 AM   #124
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Re: Favourite Trek Couple

No this thread is fine. Favorite couples, that will always include couples we never saw. J/C is a lot of people's favorite couple but they never got that onscreen kiss either.

I should point out that there is an Adult Star Trek thread in TNZ (started by me) if anyone had stuff to post they thought might cross some line. If you can't currently see it you can PM me and I'll tell you how to access it.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:19 AM   #125
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Re: Favourite Trek Couple

My selection for Favourite TREK Couple:
Tom Paris & the impossibly beautiful Rain Robinson.
VOYAGER owed it to them to allow this young, starstruck couple
to explore their love, in full. And it owed it to us, the fans, as well ...

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Old November 28 2013, 01:26 AM   #126
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No this thread is fine. Favorite couples, that will always include couples we never saw. J/C is a lot of people's favorite couple but they never got that onscreen kiss either.

I should point out that there is an Adult Star Trek thread in TNZ (started by me) if anyone had stuff to post they thought might cross some line. If you can't currently see it you can PM me and I'll tell you how to access it.
Don't worry, I'll keep it all above waist...I mean, above board.That infamous conversation between Miles and Julian inside Sloane's head blew me away with the slashiness the first time I saw it. Poor Julian - Miles just couldn't admit he liked him more than Keiko!
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Old November 28 2013, 01:32 AM   #127
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That was hilarious and deliberately played up I think by the actors. That was such a great bromance, so natural and amusing with the darts, the drinking, the alamo.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:38 AM   #128
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That was hilarious and deliberately played up I think by the actors. That was such a great bromance, so natural and amusing with the darts, the drinking, the alamo.
Absolutely: it certainly seemed through the acting choice that Miles' protests were just 'for the record'.

Reading the Turnabout Intruder thread now reminded me of how indredibly couple-y the mind meld scene between Spock and 'Janice' played out. He holds his hand for goodness sake
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Old November 28 2013, 01:38 AM   #129
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Miles definitely liked Julian more than Keiko.
Garek was really in love with Julian, that's pretty much canon. It's pretty crappy how tptb paniced at their chemistry and stopped letting them share scenes.
I'm watching Amok Time - paused right now - and it's a lot gayer than I remembered.
The buff Vulcan guard, or whatever he was, with the sword, is wearing this weird, really sexy outfit that exposes his muscular chest, and then in the fight between Kirk and Spock, Spock cuts Kirk so his chest is exposed too. Kirk gets a lot of ripped shirts over the years, but this one may the best, and then there's all the close body contact while Spock is in heat...
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Old November 28 2013, 02:12 AM   #130
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Re: Favourite Trek Couple

Boy, I'm a little late to this party. As an exercise, I'm going to pick one from each series.

TOS: Sarek/Amanda

TAS: Anne/"Carter Winston"

TNG: Lwaxana/Timicin

DS9: Miles/Keiko

VOY: Tom/Rain

ENT: Trip/T'Pol

MOV: Spock/Uhura
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Old November 28 2013, 02:43 AM   #131
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borgboy, just spent ages looking for this.. pure Amok Time slash beauty. Made me cry. It was privatized on youtube for a long time but now it has been removed, however found it eventually on a chinese version of youtube.

I'm going to write to the creator of the video (it's posted a lot on LJ) and ask if it's ever coming back to youtube land.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/FAkLcbJ_cZg/

Actually I'm thinking it went away from youtube land because there is too much footage from one ep. THANK GOD FOR CHINA.
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Old November 28 2013, 02:47 AM   #132
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To answer the question about the scene above - for me it's how Kirk *really* gets into it when he thinks it's Spock, but immediately grows uncomfortable when he realises it's the yeoman who's actually digging in. And that little shared look between Spock and Kirk - so slashy But hey, sometimes slash is in the eye of the beholder.
This. It's all about their expressions. But you can choose to read that into it or not. I choose to. ^_^

Garek was really in love with Julian, that's pretty much canon. It's pretty crappy how tptb paniced at their chemistry and stopped letting them share scenes.
I'm watching Amok Time - paused right now - and it's a lot gayer than I remembered.
The buff Vulcan guard, or whatever he was, with the sword, is wearing this weird, really sexy outfit that exposes his muscular chest, and then in the fight between Kirk and Spock, Spock cuts Kirk so his chest is exposed too. Kirk gets a lot of ripped shirts over the years, but this one may the best, and then there's all the close body contact while Spock is in heat...
And that's why I was sort of unhappy about that episode in which Garak keeps staring at Ziyal, and then everything after that. In my mind, Garak only had eyes for Bashir (and they would've made a much cuter couple).

Amok time is a fun episode. Lots of Kirk and Spock rolling around on the ground with their arms around each other. ^_^ That's another reason I was trying to read up on pon farr though, that episode. For the longest time I couldn't understand how Spock is normal after that, since he didn't.. consummate his relationship with T'Pring due to her poor taste in men. But apparently fighting gets rid of the blood fever, too.

But yeah, that may well be the best Kirk shirt-rip. ^_^

Don't worry, I'll keep it all above waist...I mean, above board.That infamous conversation between Miles and Julian inside Sloane's head blew me away with the slashiness the first time I saw it. Poor Julian - Miles just couldn't admit he liked him more than Keiko!
Haha! Somehow I forgot about that one, that was great.
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Old November 28 2013, 03:15 AM   #133
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Oh Garek and Julian are adorable. I like Ziyal, but I found Garek's interest in her to be kind of creepy, their chemistry just was all wrong.
Yeah, somehow the fight is supposed to resolve the pon farr. I've read suggestions though that the pon farr came to a uh, different climax while Spock was wrestling around on top of Kirk.
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Old November 28 2013, 03:19 AM   #134
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Garak is looking for redemption in Ziyal, if someone so sweet and innocent can love him he must be okay right?

Ziyal is looking for a daddy in Garak that doesn't make her earn his love.

Dukat loves Ziyal because he created her, she is his possession.

Ziyal is a tragic figure. Kira was the only person that cared for her without making it about herself.
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Old November 28 2013, 03:23 AM   #135
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Oh Garek and Julian are adorable. I like Ziyal, but I found Garek's interest in her to be kind of creepy, their chemistry just was all wrong.
This. I mean the Ziyal thing is obviously only put there because of how Garak and Dukat hate each other, and apaprently they wanted to erase anything potentially gay-seeming between Garak and Bashir, which was disappointing.

And after that one episode where he's creepily staring at her the whole time, it's like he's not even interested anymore; after that, it seems rather one-sided. She likes him. He just sort of tolerates it because he probably doesn't get a lot of good looking young cardassian women hanging all over him on DS9. whereas with Julian, he actually seemed interested. I mean, he does seem to like her, but not in the same way to the same extent that she likes him, it seems.

Garak is looking for redemption in Ziyal, if someone so sweet and innocent can love him he must be okay right?
Yeah, I guess I can see that. But on the other hand, it is also why I think they are mismatched.

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Yeah, somehow the fight is supposed to resolve the pon farr. I've read suggestions though that the pon farr came to a uh, different climax while Spock was wrestling around on top of Kirk.
That was my first thought, yeah... But in a couple of different sources I've read that pon farr can be resolved in 3 ways: the regular consummating the relationship way; fighting; and intense meditation (which is supposed to not work most of the time and is a last resort).
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