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Old November 4 2013, 12:35 PM   #76
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When Rothstein says to Nucky that he was the victim of an unscrupulous broker, is he talking about the meeting he had when he ran in to Margaret? If so I find it kind of hard to believe that he would fall for such a scam. Gambling debt I could understand, it's been established that he had a weakness. But falling for something like that just makes him look like an idiot.
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Old November 4 2013, 08:23 PM   #77
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"I am relaxed."

Watch out, everyone. Van Alden's fire is back. He's not taking shit anymore (again). I wonder if he'll finally work with Capone properly.

Good to see Richard getting married to Julia, even if it's not strictly for love between them. It's clear things aren't the same with each other now that she knows what kind of person he is, but she's willing to do this for their mutual love for Tommy. I can just only hope she can find it in her heart to see what she loved about Richard in the first place, although that might be difficult with Richard working for Nucky, just as war is about to explode.

Chalky is a hair away from losing everything. His reputation, his club, even his family. Open war with Dr. Narcisse is going to come at some great cost, I fear, even if Nucky gets dragged into the war.

I never thought I would say this, but I don't want Mickey to die. The little bastard has grown on me and I would hate to see him go just so Rothstein can pay his debts.

I've known from the get go not to trust Roy Phillips, but I think I finally see what he's aiming for: Tommy. The question is why?
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Old November 4 2013, 08:28 PM   #78
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When Rothstein says to Nucky that he was the victim of an unscrupulous broker, is he talking about the meeting he had when he ran in to Margaret? If so I find it kind of hard to believe that he would fall for such a scam. Gambling debt I could understand, it's been established that he had a weakness. But falling for something like that just makes him look like an idiot.

Hmmm, I didn't realize he might have been talking about her, but that's likely it. But I don't think he fell for it so much as giving Nucky a hint of who he met. Kind of like a code, as knowing his gambling history, it would make falling for it a bit too obvious. Rather, I think it tells Nucky, "You know who I met? She's trouble, but I have an eye on her." That said, it would indicate to Nucky that he owes him.
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Old November 5 2013, 05:01 PM   #79
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Nice to see Richard finally settle down
Does anyone else get the feeling that this season will be Richard's last? The focus on him in the first episode suggested that something big was going to happen to him this season, like the writers were preparing to say goodbye to a beloved character. Now he's married and has a family, it feels like he's being set up for a fall. Maybe I'm just over-analysing things, I certainly hope it's not the case.

On the plus side, Van Alden is making a good stab at returning to the position of my favourite character. I loved him back in season 1, but wasn't such a fan of what happened to him in seasons 2 and 3. But now he appears to have completely lost his mind, which should be interesting going forward.
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Old November 5 2013, 05:14 PM   #80
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Kinda surprised Alden's ex-coworkers went after him know how unhinged he can get, still great scene, somebody might want to pick up those bodies in the ally. LOL

This was a great episode, the acting is so top notch in this show.
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Old November 6 2013, 12:37 AM   #81
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Nice to see Richard finally settle down
Does anyone else get the feeling that this season will be Richard's last? The focus on him in the first episode suggested that something big was going to happen to him this season, like the writers were preparing to say goodbye to a beloved character. Now he's married and has a family, it feels like he's being set up for a fall. Maybe I'm just over-analysing things, I certainly hope it's not the case.

Hmm, I hope you're wrong. I haven't got that feeling, but there's a chance you could be right. But they've really taken their time for it to get to this point, starting even as far back as season 2. Last season, Richard was on that killing spree and got that out of his system, and I think maybe the first episode suggested that things would soon be changing. You could see him struggle and come to terms with what he'd done and wanting to get back to the old life he had. To me, the fact that they took their time getting this far suggest that they wouldn't do something so drastic. Or they could, but then it would rather be a cold thing to do. I do find it interesting that he went to visit Nucky though.
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Old November 6 2013, 03:44 PM   #82
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I always had a feeling Richard was going to be working with Nucky at some point. This season they took there time bringing Richard to that point. I would hope that next season we see Richard becoming Nucky's right hand man, considering he has lost Eddie and possible issues with his brother helping the FBI.
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Old November 7 2013, 01:46 AM   #83
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What the heck were Van Alden's co-workers thinking, going after him like that?

I mean, if it was just the burned guy who was now unemployed and totally lacking money I could get it but it was even his old boss (who came off as a normal guy) was in on it.
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Old November 8 2013, 12:18 PM   #84
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Great episode and nice to see Richard (and I guess the old Van Alden) return. Kudos to whoever did Daughter Maitland's post-beating makeup. Inferred all the savagery which gratefully the producers spared us onscreen.
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Van Alden telling O'Banion all about himself...that was intense. Great scene.
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Old November 11 2013, 03:58 AM   #86
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Tonight's episode had me nervous. I kept waiting for someone to bust through a door to waste Chalky. Fortunately Chalky's instincts are good and he stayed alive. Nucky has now made his choice as Narcisse reveals how much of a snake he is.

The scenes between Margaret and Rothstein were great.
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Old November 11 2013, 06:15 AM   #87
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Yeah, some interesting stuff happening this week. And yeah, Narcisse really shows his true colours. I think that he made that deal with Nucky in order to distract him from Chalky, knowing that he'd never deliver him anyway. He likely knew that Nucky wouldn't deliver him anyway and was tipped off by the Mayor. Great to see Margaret again.

I have a feeling that Capone will finally take over on his end during the finale.
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Old November 11 2013, 06:46 AM   #88
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I was also edgy about what Narcisse might do with Chalky's daughter.

It'll be interesting to see what is done to deal with Narcisse. He talks about helping black people, but he's just another scheming crook with a polished manner of speaking.
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Old November 12 2013, 07:00 PM   #89
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I was genuinely fearful Chalky was going to buy it. Same for Meyer (I quite the little weasel, just like Mickey, weird, I know). We always knew Narcisse was a snake but now it's coming out in full force. My skin crawled during the scene with him and Chalky's daughter. Like I said last week, I fear that Chalky is going to lose big by the end. It's just a matter of what exactly.

The scenes with Margaret were great and Rothstein is going down an interesting path, following real life. Al Capone, too. I knew his other brother was going to die, but Al is madder than ever. Al is about to rise from the impending war. And dear ol' Van Alden, who just saved Al's skin just mere episodes after attempting to kill him, is going to be at his side. I love it.

Best part of the whole episode? The two scenes my two favorite characters shared together: Chalky and Richard. Beautiful.

Just about everyone appears in this episode with the noticeable exception of Gillian and Roy. They've had an interesting story this season but it's beginning to show just how disconnected it is from the rest of the show's tapestry.
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Best part of the whole episode? The two scenes my two favorite characters shared together: Chalky and Richard. Beautiful.
Yeah, I loved those.
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