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Old October 8 2013, 12:21 PM   #46
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Capone is reminding me of scrappy Doo.


And Eddie

Narcisse is playing a long, interesting game. And I keep wondering when Nitti will make an appearance.
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Old October 8 2013, 03:15 PM   #47
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A sad end for Eddie, he had only just stared being developed as a character and all. I wonder if this is how Margaret will come back into things, maybe she shows up for Eddie's funeral?
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Old October 8 2013, 03:24 PM   #48
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In fiction we can often assume that bad things, particularly terminally bad, won't happen to good people, but it is compelling when fiction mimcks real life where bad things often do happen to good people.
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Old October 8 2013, 03:52 PM   #49
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A sad end for Eddie, he had only just stared being developed as a character and all. I wonder if this is how Margaret will come back into things, maybe she shows up for Eddie's funeral?
I know, poor Eddie. I liked him.

As for Margaret, if/when she does return, it will be a cool reception.
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Old October 8 2013, 04:22 PM   #50
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In fiction we can often assume that bad things, particularly terminally bad, won't happen to good people, but it is compelling when fiction mimcks real life where bad things often do happen to good people.
I wouldn't exactly call Eddie a good person. Apart from the things we learned about his past in this episode, he apparently had no qualms about being part of Nucky's criminal empire.

I'm unclear on what deal was cut in regard's to Eli's son. They arrested Clayton but what will keep him from telling the truth and thereby implying Eli's son in the accidental poisoning of that other kid?
But maybe we'll hear more about that in the upcoming episodes.
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Old October 8 2013, 07:55 PM   #51
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I wouldn't exactly call Eddie a good person. Apart from the things we learned about his past in this episode, he apparently had no qualms about being part of Nucky's criminal empire.

If only because he was a neutral player. He wasn't privy to many of the things that Nucky did, was never tasked with anything directly in terms of business, nor was he asked for his opinion. It was only his last order that got him involved directly in the business, and that proved to be more of a burden on him than the little worries he had, like which suit and socks Nucky should wear.
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Old October 8 2013, 09:45 PM   #52
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In fiction we can often assume that bad things, particularly terminally bad, won't happen to good people, but it is compelling when fiction mimcks real life where bad things often do happen to good people.
I wouldn't exactly call Eddie a good person. Apart from the things we learned about his past in this episode, he apparently had no qualms about being part of Nucky's criminal empire.

I'm unclear on what deal was cut in regard's to Eli's son. They arrested Clayton but what will keep him from telling the truth and thereby implying Eli's son in the accidental poisoning of that other kid?
But maybe we'll hear more about that in the upcoming episodes.
Eddie was aware of things but most of his time was as a valet, rather than an active participant so far as we know anyway. His jumping, whether he dies from the fall or not, is an act of someone not up to handling even the small time criminal life of a bag man.

As far as Willie and Clayton go, Willie might have gotten an immunity deal for his testimony. Clayton can say whatever he likes, but it is likely too late for the poor loser.
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Old October 8 2013, 10:44 PM   #53
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All the shit with Van Alden and Capone is amazing. I'd always hoped those two would really get together. Is Van Alden going to end up his right hand man? Or maybe his is already. I miss crazy-confident Van Alden as opposed to meek, conservative Van Alden. I love where this is going.

I'm amazed we are what, 4 or 5 episodes in now, still seeing the credit for Kelly MacDonald and still nothing of Margaret. I know, 'she's a regular' but she's also a ghost!
Is the Lucy character dead? Can't recall.

As for Eddie, I guess its important story-wise that Nucky be:
a) more alone
b) aware that someone is coming to get hiiiim!
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Old October 9 2013, 06:40 AM   #54
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All the shit with Van Alden and Capone is amazing. I'd always hoped those two would really get together. Is Van Alden going to end up his right hand man? Or maybe his is already. I miss crazy-confident Van Alden as opposed to meek, conservative Van Alden. I love where this is going.
Agreed on all counts. It's crazy to think that we've known Van Alden far more as a meek, disgraced agent in hiding than as a confident federal. I've been hoping for a Van Alden/Capone team-up since last season. I'll be very interested to see if Nucky sees him in this new position if/when Nucky visits Chicago or Capone visits Atlantic City again.

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I'm amazed we are what, 4 or 5 episodes in now, still seeing the credit for Kelly MacDonald and still nothing of Margaret. I know, 'she's a regular' but she's also a ghost!
This continues to blow my mind for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, Kelly Macdonald was one of the major reasons why I started watching this show (along with Michael Kenneth Williams, Steve Buschemi, and the premise) and yet I don't actually miss her at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I still love the character, but there's so much going on right now that I'm thoroughly enjoying that I'm not feeling her absence too much. I like the speculation earlier this thread that she might return for Eddie's funeral.

Secondly, I can't help but wonder the reasons for this. Is it because of some crazy creative decision (i.e. hold the character back to allow other characters and plot lines to develop and then bring her back after a tragedy) or was there some scheduling issue with Kelly Macdonald (she did give birth last December), some combination of the two, or something completely different?

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Is the Lucy character dead? Can't recall.
No, she simply abandoned her child with Van Alden and fled to parts unknown.

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As for Eddie, I guess its important story-wise that Nucky be:
a) more alone
b) aware that someone is coming to get hiiiim!
Again. Poor bastard.
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Old October 14 2013, 05:26 AM   #55
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Finally, Margaret! Although from the sounds of it, it doesn't sound like she'll be much of a presence anymore. Is it just me or does she look a little different? Makeup perhaps?
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Old October 14 2013, 08:03 PM   #56
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Only one scene from Margaret but it was a killer. Between the "I wouldn’t put something alive in a box" and "No one knew how to look after you like Mr. Kessler," that scene was filled with chills on both sides. Unfortunately, I don't see Margaret having a larger presence if all of this waiting for her to return and this is all we got in one episode. Again, I can't help but wonder the reasoning behind it.

Another quiet episode with the shadow of Eddie hanging over Nucky, Eli and Agent Knox and pieces quietly being moved around for everyone (except Capone and Van Alden who are absent).

Richard finally returns and I find myself reflecting upon words I said in my season 3 finale review: How will Julia see Richard now and how will it affect their relationship? She clearly knows what he is, and while her father, surprisingly, accepts him for what he is, she doesn't seem so quick to acceptance, even though she wants to.

The sexual tension between Chalky and Daughter Maitland finally erupts and yet I can't help but wonder if this is part of some larger game from Dr. Narcisse. Speaking of which, he's missing again, as is Ron Livingston, who, unfortunately, hasn't done much anything so far this season. Hopefully that changes soon.
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Old October 14 2013, 08:18 PM   #57
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Eddie was aware of things but most of his time was as a valet, rather than an active participant so far as we know anyway. His jumping, whether he dies from the fall or not, is an act of someone not up to handling even the small time criminal life of a bag man.
Eddie jumped because he was between a rock and a hard place. His loyalty to Nucky was such that he couldn't take his failure in being captured and giving up info, and the stuff about his family in Germany confirmed to him that he had failed there, too. There was nowhere to go. He'd rather die than be an informant or be deported. He could handle being a bag man. He couldn't handle being a snitch and a disowned father at the same time.
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Old October 14 2013, 08:47 PM   #58
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Unfortunately, I don't seem Margaret having a larger presence if all of this waiting for her to return and this is all we got in one episode. Again, I can't help but wonder the reasoning behind it.
Yeah, perhaps you're right. Considering she was such an important character throughout, only having one episode would seem to be rather odd, not to mention introducing this tension, it eventually has to break, so maybe there is more to it.

Another quiet episode with the shadow of Eddie hanging over Nucky, Eli and Agent Knox and pieces quietly being moved around for everyone (except Capone and Van Alden who are absent).
I liked the comment about Eli being mistaken for Eddie, and it made me wonder if maybe there was more to it, or maybe I'm just thinking too much on it, but it felt like some likely foreshadowing.


The sexual tension between Chalky and Daughter Maitland finally erupts and yet I can't help but wonder if this is part of some larger game from Dr. Narcisse.
I find that singer remarkably like Josephine Baker. Maybe they modeled the character after her.
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Old October 18 2013, 07:47 AM   #59
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I often get the feeling from the show that even some of the non-fictional characters are modelled on real life persons. I liked the Ma Rainey reference too

I'm not sure if someone mentioned earlier here, or elsewhere, but regarding Kelly I got a distinct 'possibly pregnant' vibe. Such a short scene, the coat and most of their scene being shot sitting down. But could be wrong...
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She gave birth last year so that might have affected her filming schedule.
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