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Old September 15 2013, 07:38 PM   #46
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

Unlike some other people, I don't have anything against Riker and Troi being in the Enterprise finale. I liked it as a matter of fact. Riker having a final conversation with each crewmember was a very good idea, the problem is the conversations themselves were boring....

And then Trip dies, killing the rest of the episode. Nobody cared about Archer's big moment because Trip just died a few minutes ago. Bad writing.
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Old September 15 2013, 09:55 PM   #47
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

I did like the final montage, but I didn't even care about Trip dying. It was so absurdly random.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:50 PM   #48
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

The 2nd to last episode was way better, "Terra Prime".

I wasn't as mad about the TNG cast being on as I was about Trip dying.

After ALL OF THAT DRAMA between Trip and T'Pol...they just have him die instead of him and T'Pol being together. So lame.

I did cry when Trip died, if I remember correctly. But it was so unnecessary, I think.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:53 PM   #49
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

I might have laughed when it happened because it was so ridiculous.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:55 PM   #50
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

It definitely WAS random...but having binge-watched ENT in a rather short period of time, I had grown attached to Trip. So I was sad when he died.
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Old September 16 2013, 09:02 AM   #51
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

This is the most laughing I've done in a TATV Sux thread since I can remember. Thanks, all

For the record, I think the episode was a steaming pile of story structure problems, character inconsistencies, and head-scratching contrivance. Waste of an hour. Unsatisfyingly awful as a series finale. Gimme "Demons"/"Terra Prime". Better yet, gimme Seasons 5-7.
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Old September 16 2013, 10:57 AM   #52
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

Worse than Trip dying was brushing off 2 seasons of Trip/T'Pol storyline in one sentence, establishing they broke up and never looked back. I guess getting rid of a telepathic bond is like removing a tattoo or something...


I did like the continuity with "Zero Hour", actually seeing Archer walking out in the stadium that Daniels' showed him previously. But that's all. Scotty killing Archer's dog and the model Enterprise on the Evil Admiral's desk in the new films are better send-offs for Enterprise than this 42-minute failiure. Actually, that Romulan war film they were working on, where Enterprise is at Risa and misses the whole thing, would have been better than TATV!
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Old September 16 2013, 01:19 PM   #53
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I think the historical records were damaged and Riker let Barclay fill in the gaps. Would explain a lot.
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Old September 16 2013, 02:48 PM   #54
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No, it does not. This must obviously be a piece of 25th Century propaganda attempt to rewrite history at the expense of the Enterprise and its officers and just proves my general concerns regarding retroactive continuity.

So after having served for over 6 years under Captain Picard, a CO Riker looks up to and admires for his integrity and character strength, Riker still doesn't have it in him to make a personal decision how to handle this whole "Pegasus Issue" and needs to listen to a history lesson to make up his mind.

There were two good things about this ENT episode: The narrative at the end and the TNG footage in 16:9 widescreen at the beginning.

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Old September 16 2013, 07:22 PM   #55
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

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Old September 16 2013, 08:11 PM   #56
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^That might work if not for the fact that what has been seen cannot be unseen.
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Old September 16 2013, 11:19 PM   #57
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Re: Just seen the last episode... I'm outrage!

Well moving Enterprise from the prime universe to the JJverse would eliminate a lot of continuity errors in both.
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Old September 17 2013, 12:28 AM   #58
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dub wrote: View Post
^That might work if not for the fact that what has been seen cannot be unseen.
Think of TATV as just reeeeally bad fanfic.
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Old September 17 2013, 04:41 AM   #59
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Polly want a Riker?



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Old September 17 2013, 07:33 AM   #60
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