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Old December 3 2013, 12:30 AM   #1
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Gary Kerr's Enterprise....

For years I have heard of Gary Kerr's TOS Enterprise drawings. I certainly know of his contributions to Trek productions as well as TOS-R and, of course, Round2/Polar Lights.

But I have never seen his Enterprise drawings. Are they even available to be seen or even purchased? I would love to see drawings purported to be the most accurate ever.
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Old December 3 2013, 04:45 AM   #2
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the short answer is no they are not publicly available. i do not have the long answer but it has been discussed on various sites for a long time. i know that some people have seen copies of them but as far as anyone giving them up not going to happen. a guy by the name of steve neill has a model that is proported to be made from them. he is all over youtube and has worked in the industry for a long time.
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Old December 3 2013, 04:49 AM   #3
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^^ Is Neil the guy who made the 66in. Enterprise replica?
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Old December 3 2013, 02:43 PM   #4
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Ray, Gary is one of my Facebook friends. You can probably friend him too, or at least if you ask me this question on Facebook, Gary might see it.
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Old December 3 2013, 10:17 PM   #5
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Old December 3 2013, 10:26 PM   #6
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Or not.
Well, might depend on how often he goes to Facebook. He might be a busy guy. He's also working on the 1/32 shuttlecraft, isn't he?
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Old December 4 2013, 02:33 PM   #7
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I was IMing with him last night, so he's on enough. I guess he can't see other peoples' posts on my wall. Ask him for a friending, then you can talk directly.
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Old December 4 2013, 02:58 PM   #8
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Gary helped me with the Galileo restoration. We placed his initials on the side in honor of his contribution.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:49 PM   #9
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Regarding the shuttle restoration, are there/will there be measurements released of the full size prop? Cloudster made some fine estimates several years ago, but that was before the original was rediscovered and restored.
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Old December 5 2013, 10:18 PM   #10
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Regarding the shuttle restoration, are there/will there be measurements released of the full size prop? Cloudster made some fine estimates several years ago, but that was before the original was rediscovered and restored.
Phil Broad's drawings on cloudster.com are amazing, but even so I saw differences between his drawings and photographs of the full-size mockup both in TOS screencaps and images of the mockup newly restored. There don't appear to be huge differences but they're there. Although it's hard to tell from drawings his take makes the mockup look more "nose down" than it appears in pictures. And finally there appear to be some slight details missing from his drawings, but again it's very minor.

If there are any measurements released I suspect they will be gross measurements. Gary Kerr most likely has had opportunity to study the exterior mockup close up if for no other reason than for research towards developing a 1/32 scale model kit for Round2. On that point assuming he makes detailed drawings I'd be surprised if they see the light of day publicly. It could be very much like his Enterprise drawings: available for licence purposes only.

So from that standpoint devoed fans will have to resort to what they've been doing for decades: studying photographs, screencaps and whatever drawings are available to make their own drawings. And perhaps the closest one might get is to go see the shuttlecraft in person and try to take lots of photos.
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Old December 6 2013, 12:17 AM   #11
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Re: Gary Kerr's Enterprise....

Things have been quiet since Round2 initially announced they would be developing a 1/32 scale kit of TOS' Galileo shuttlecraft. The only news I have is that while work is proceeding the introduction of the kit is slated for perhaps late 2014 or maybe even sometime in 2015. I hope not as this is a kit I've been waiting a long time for, as long as I've waited for the 1/350 scale TOS Enterprise.

That said while hunting around I came across this image posted on CultTvMan's site from the 2013 Wonderfest. What's interesting about it is it shows the differences between the 22in. miniature and the full-size exterior mockup as well as details of the interior. I can only assume or guess that this illustration could likely be based on Gary Kerr's research of TOS' shuttlecraft. I do find it interesting that the miniature departs as much as it does from the full-size mockup in some interesting ways. It doesn't look as tapered from back to front and the underside cut-out is missing on the full-size version. The decal placement also differs between the two replicas. That said I'm glad I leaned more towards the full-size mockup in terms of my own drawings of the shuttlecraft since the illustations here look more like my own interpretation.

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Old December 6 2013, 02:46 AM   #12
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That hatch on the bottom of the 22" miniature was used to access the interior. They could replace the interior light and change the rigging from there. No need for that on the full sized version.
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Old December 6 2013, 02:21 PM   #13
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Things have been quiet since Round2 initially announced they would be developing a 1/32 scale kit of TOS' Galileo shuttlecraft. The only news I have is that while work is proceeding the introduction of the kit is slated for perhaps late 2014 or maybe even sometime in 2015. I hope not as this is a kit I've been waiting a long time for, as long as I've waited for the 1/350 scale TOS Enterprise.
Gary said something on FB about other things taking time away from his working on the plans. But he's trying.
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Old December 7 2013, 01:03 AM   #14
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^^ Is Neil the guy who made the 66in. Enterprise replica?
yes that is whom i was referring.

so maybe i was wrong about no plans of the enterprise being available from mr. kerr?
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Old December 7 2013, 01:43 AM   #15
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^^ Is Neil the guy who made the 66in. Enterprise replica?
yes that is whom i was referring.

so maybe i was wrong about no plans of the enterprise being available from mr. kerr?
Well I understand they're available for licenced purposes only. But the '66in. replica sounds more like a personal project unless, of course, he makes and sells them on order. I don't know.
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