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Old September 11 2013, 12:39 PM   #16
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Re: Why Does a French Captain Have an English Accent?

I wonder how the UT rendered Riker's imitation of Picard's accent back into a language that Picard understands (Pegasus).
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Old September 11 2013, 08:21 PM   #17
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Re: Why Does a French Captain Have an English Accent?

Didn't Data or someone once say that French was a dead language? A French accent (or any "foreign" accent) comes from French pronunciation of similar letter combinations and the like, which the speaker can't/won't get right. If no one spoke French, even in France, they wouldn't have French accents.

Russian is apparently not a dead language, since there are still folks with Russian accents, even in TNG (the Rozhenkos - speaking of, I guess Worf either learned American English at Minsk, or whatever, as a kid in school; or he doesn't even speak English at all in TNG, and that's just the UT talking). Apparently the UT doesn't take out accents, so anyone speaking with a non-American English accent I assume is actually speaking real English.

I blame WWIII.
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Old September 11 2013, 09:30 PM   #18
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Yeah she dropped Trek as quick as she practically could, then spent the next six years trying to get back into it.
Yes she did. I wish she had stuck around. I really liked her character. Much better then Worf as a matter of fact.
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Old September 11 2013, 09:39 PM   #19
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I wonder how the UT rendered Riker's imitation of Picard's accent back into a language that Picard understands (Pegasus).
I'm sure the look on his face, the tone of his voice, and wiggling the doll as he spoke was enough to get the message across.
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Old September 11 2013, 09:42 PM   #20
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Didn't Data or someone once say that French was a dead language? A French accent (or any "foreign" accent) comes from French pronunciation of similar letter combinations and the like, which the speaker can't/won't get right. If no one spoke French, even in France, they wouldn't have French accents.
Season 1 was Data's "Pranking" phase. Can't trust any historical "facts" uttered by Data during that time period.
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Old September 12 2013, 12:17 AM   #21
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If Picard is French, why does he have an English accent?
Ask French actress Eva Green.

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Old September 12 2013, 12:48 AM   #22
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Re: Why Does a French Captain Have an English Accent?

I got torn a new one when I once posed this question. I meant it from a production standpoint. French-heritage captain with very British accent just seems odd. Still. Yes, of course a French person mat speaj English with a British accent. (Though I would still expect the native phonemes and idiosyncrasies of French to flavor the British English spoken.) But whatever.
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Old September 12 2013, 01:48 AM   #23
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Re: Why Does a French Captain Have an English Accent?

You know, what with the DVDs of The Next Generation containing multiple language options and all that, it surprises me that nobody has ever thought to do a YouTube video of a scene containing a mixture of the French language track (for all of Picard's dialogue) and the English language tracks (for everybody else). Might be kinda cool to actually see Picard speaking French in a regular scene!
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Old September 12 2013, 02:05 AM   #24
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I think the real question is if Picard indeed had an ancestor who served at the Battle of Trafalgar, which SIDE did he serve on? This could explain the WHOLE English accent thing, if he was a traitor!
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Old September 12 2013, 02:55 AM   #25
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I think the real question is if Picard indeed had an ancestor who served at the Battle of Trafalgar, which SIDE did he serve on? This could explain the WHOLE English accent thing, if he was a traitor!
Funny, but I'm not sure how. Were the Picards secret Anglophiles for five centuries?
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Old September 12 2013, 04:51 AM   #26
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I think the real question is if Picard indeed had an ancestor who served at the Battle of Trafalgar, which SIDE did he serve on? This could explain the WHOLE English accent thing, if he was a traitor!
Funny, but I'm not sure how.
There was a line, can't remember which episode at the moment, where Picard opines about coming from a long line of Picards doing a bunch of important shit, including one who fought at the Battle of Trafalgar.

Were the Picards secret Anglophiles for five centuries?
That IS the question!
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Old September 12 2013, 07:43 PM   #27
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wasn't there a huge letter writing campaign to bring back Crusher?
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Old September 13 2013, 02:20 AM   #28
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Yeah she dropped Trek as quick as she practically could, then spent the next six years trying to get back into it.
Yes she did. I wish she had stuck around. I really liked her character. Much better then Worf as a matter of fact.
I dunno, I never really could get into Tasha. The most dramatic thing she did was die really. Beyond that, she just overacted a lot of scenes spouting out the jargon of this week's plot. Then again season 1 in general had a lot of over acting and not much character development.

Probably the only scene with her I really liked was when in Skin of Evil, even though it had nothing to do with the plot. The one where Worf and Yar were talking about a martial arts tournament and he was betting on her.

I get why she quit over that, her displeasure over her lack of character would seem akin to my displeasure as a fan. Beyond that alternate Yar really didn't do much for me in Yesterday's Enterprise and spawned one of the worse Trek villains ever.

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wasn't there a huge letter writing campaign to bring back Crusher?
I think so, I do know that also not wanting to have a third doctor in as many seasons contributed to Crusher's return. It was awkward enough that she just left her kid on the ship for only one year.
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Old September 13 2013, 04:47 PM   #29
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Yeah she dropped Trek as quick as she practically could, then spent the next six years trying to get back into it.
Yes she did. I wish she had stuck around. I really liked her character. Much better then Worf as a matter of fact.
I dunno, I never really could get into Tasha. The most dramatic thing she did was die really. Beyond that, she just overacted a lot of scenes spouting out the jargon of this week's plot. Then again season 1 in general had a lot of over acting and not much character development.

Probably the only scene with her I really liked was when in Skin of Evil, even though it had nothing to do with the plot. The one where Worf and Yar were talking about a martial arts tournament and he was betting on her.

I get why she quit over that, her displeasure over her lack of character would seem akin to my displeasure as a fan. Beyond that alternate Yar really didn't do much for me in Yesterday's Enterprise and spawned one of the worse Trek villains ever.

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wasn't there a huge letter writing campaign to bring back Crusher?
I think so, I do know that also not wanting to have a third doctor in as many seasons contributed to Crusher's return. It was awkward enough that she just left her kid on the ship for only one year.
Her leaving has come up at conventions, Richard Arnold said she wanted more lines, but since she already had several episodes in which she was heavily featured they said no, so that's why she wanted to leave

then of course after that she wanted back in when she realized it was a popular show

and then she made that crap documentary about Trekkies that made us all look like freaks
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Old September 13 2013, 05:42 PM   #30
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Her leaving has come up at conventions, Richard Arnold said she wanted more lines, but since she already had several episodes in which she was heavily featured they said no, so that's why she wanted to leave

then of course after that she wanted back in when she realized it was a popular show

and then she made that crap documentary about Trekkies that made us all look like freaks
Honestly I saw that documentary as a shameless attempt to boost her fledgling acting career, or at least bring in a few extra bucks. The primary purpose behind it definitely didn't seem to be to win over the fans.
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