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Old October 13 2013, 12:05 AM   #196
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Is that a Sonic Screwdriver I see?
No, he's just happy to see you

Yea, sure as heck looks like one.
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Old October 13 2013, 12:35 AM   #197
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Is that Eccleston's U-boat coat that Hurt is wearing?

It looks great, but I have to agree with a few others. Why the hell didn't they get McGann?
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Old October 13 2013, 01:36 AM   #198
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Is that Eccleston's U-boat coat that Hurt is wearing?

It looks great, but I have to agree with a few others. Why the hell didn't they get McGann?
Because, as has been suggested, THIS Doctor has done some bad bad things. So bad that the Doctor has locked him away, disavowed him, stripped him of the name Doctor, should that be done to McGann's Doctor? I think some fans would throw a fit.

And besides, then we wouldn't have John Hurt...
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Old October 13 2013, 01:45 AM   #199
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Old October 13 2013, 10:20 AM   #200
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Is that Eccleston's U-boat coat that Hurt is wearing?

It looks great, but I have to agree with a few others. Why the hell didn't they get McGann?
It's Eccleston's coat and McGann's waistcoat!
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Old October 13 2013, 10:58 AM   #201
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Because, as has been suggested, THIS Doctor has done some bad bad things. So bad that the Doctor has locked him away, disavowed him, stripped him of the name Doctor, should that be done to McGann's Doctor? I think some fans would throw a fit.
And yet if Eccleston had said yes it would have been him there instead of Hurt.
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Old October 13 2013, 12:06 PM   #202
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Because, as has been suggested, THIS Doctor has done some bad bad things. So bad that the Doctor has locked him away, disavowed him, stripped him of the name Doctor, should that be done to McGann's Doctor? I think some fans would throw a fit.
And yet if Eccleston had said yes it would have been him there instead of Hurt.
Do we really know that for sure though? It wouldn't make a lot of sense, as Eccleston's Doctor has been acknowledged several times over the series; his existence has never been denied by anyone, including the Doctor himself.
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Old October 13 2013, 12:11 PM   #203
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And yet if Eccleston had said yes it would have been him there instead of Hurt.
Do we really know that for sure though? It wouldn't make a lot of sense, as Eccleston's Doctor has been acknowledged several times over the series; his existence has never been denied by anyone, including the Doctor himself.
I believe the point is that if Eccleston had been willing, Moffat would've written a different story, one that would've made use of Eccleston instead of introducing a hitherto-unacknowledged incarnation.
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Old October 13 2013, 12:56 PM   #204
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I was thinking the same thing about the sonic screwdriver. It looks like an older one for sure, looks like it's just a toy one though. :P
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Old October 13 2013, 02:14 PM   #205
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What I don't understand about the Hurt Doctor's clothing is, why is it a mix between McGann and Eccleston's attires? The Doctor hasn't had an evolution of clothing before, and in this case it seems as if the Doctor's clothing evolved from McGann through Hurt through Eccleston... only for Tennant to go totally different, just as Smith later did.

Seems kinda pointless, to me.
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Old October 13 2013, 02:18 PM   #206
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Moffat on why Eccleston didn't return for The Day of the Doctor.

Can't say that it changes anything - still sad that he chose not to return for this one time - but at least there was no hurt feelings or anything, according to Moffat. Which is good, of course.
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Old October 13 2013, 04:02 PM   #207
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Indeed, McGann's clothing has already 'evolved' into a mix of his and Eccleston's outfits in the most recent audio dramas (indicating he's very close to the start of the Time War and, presumably, his regeneration into Hurt). His new short haircut and stubbly appearance even seems a precursor to Hurt's Doctor.
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Old October 13 2013, 04:24 PM   #208
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I understand why they might've gone for it, to help establish the intent of that incarnation being in-between the other two, but I don't think its quite in-character for the Doctor. He's always gone for a stark contrast, clothes-wise, in each subsequent incarnation, with no real connections to his previous clothing.

Now, I know I'm reading too much into this, and probably shouldn't be bothered by this, but... well, it just doesn't make sense to me, really.
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Old October 13 2013, 05:15 PM   #209
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Maybe this incarnation was never intended to be permanent. Could he be a 'forced' reincarnation like how the Timelords forced the Second Doctor to regenerate, but on this occasion, they deliberately created a more ruthless version of the Doctor intending him to be short-lived. This would explain why he doesn't have his own unique identity, as well as being why he did whatever it is the other Doctors are ashamed of.
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Old October 13 2013, 05:20 PM   #210
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And yet if Eccleston had said yes it would have been him there instead of Hurt.
Do we really know that for sure though? It wouldn't make a lot of sense, as Eccleston's Doctor has been acknowledged several times over the series; his existence has never been denied by anyone, including the Doctor himself.
I believe the point is that if Eccleston had been willing, Moffat would've written a different story, one that would've made use of Eccleston instead of introducing a hitherto-unacknowledged incarnation.
That could be true. Of course, this could've been a story that Moffat has always wanted to tell, and was going to do it regardless if Eccelston was in it or not. Moffat had to suspect that Eccelston wasn't going to do it.

Until Moffat does his own version of The Writer's Tale we may never now.
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