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Old October 16 2013, 06:02 AM   #121
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Re: Original Series Doctors Protest Lack Of 50th Involvement

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No, in my world, the real world, only a small segment of the population is clamoring for Tom Baker's return. Pretty sure that's what I said.
That is indeed what you said and is based purely on your own assumption with no evidence to back it up. When asked for evidence you claimed that people would need to be organisning campaigns to get Tom Baker in the show, clearing implying that if they do not then nobody would enjoy seeing it.
"Clamoring". Enough now.
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Old October 16 2013, 06:08 AM   #122
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A small cameo would interfere with an "entertaining story"?
Probably not, but no small cameo is not a "slap in the face".

Enough with the please.
It's a slap in the face to not acknowledge the 42 years' worth of Doctor Who that existed before the Christopher Eccleston stories.

As for my use of ... when you become a moderator, you can dictate which smileys I use to express my honest sentiments.

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In your world, unless people have public demonstrations and organise campaigns then they don't think something is a good idea?
No, in my world, the real world, only a small segment of the population is clamoring for Tom Baker's return. Pretty sure that's what I said.
So your world is more "real" than anyone else's, right?

Newsflash: It isn't. Personally, I'd understand if Tom Baker didn't make an appearance. He may not want to, or he may not be in the best of health. I don't know for sure, but they would be reasonable reasons why he wouldn't be part of it.

However, if he wants to, and feels up to it, it would be a wonderful way of saying thank you to him and his fans, and acknowledging his part in keeping this show going for so many years.



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Old October 16 2013, 06:14 AM   #123
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I've been a Doctor Who fan since 2000, when I was in the fifth grade and my aunt showed me Four to Doomsday. I then got my hands on as much Doctor Who as I could find. I've read the NAs, the EDAs, and listened to a number of BF audios. So I'm an old school fan here and simply don't get the outrage.

I'd love to see some old Doctors return but if Moffat's story doesn't call for it and he thinks he can do a better job with a different approach then that's what he should do. I trust him and I see no point in complaining until after we've seen the episode.
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Old October 16 2013, 06:18 AM   #124
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As for my use of ... when you become a moderator, you can dictate which smileys I use to express my honest sentiments.
I can ask politely, which is what I did.

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So your world is more "real" than anyone else's, right?
No, it's precisely the same world. That your opinion is not actively supported by legions of fans doesn't make it invalid, but it is not.
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Old October 16 2013, 06:25 AM   #125
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I've been a Doctor Who fan since 2000, when I was in the fifth grade and my aunt showed me Four to Doomsday. I then got my hands on as much Doctor Who as I could find. I've read the NAs, the EDAs, and listened to a number of BF audios. So I'm an old school fan here and simply don't get the outrage.

I'd love to see some old Doctors return but if Moffat's story doesn't call for it and he thinks he can do a better job with a different approach then that's what he should do. I trust him and I see no point in complaining until after we've seen the episode.
That seems perfectly reasonable and I agree wholeheartedly.
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Old October 16 2013, 06:27 AM   #126
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So your world is more "real" than anyone else's, right?
No, it's precisely the same world. That your opinion is not actively supported by legions of fans doesn't make it invalid, but it is not.
You are misquoting me......
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Old October 16 2013, 06:38 AM   #127
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You are misquoting me...
My apologies. I edited the post.
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Old October 16 2013, 10:22 AM   #128
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On the subject of classic Doctors in the 50th...



It’s just the same old circular arguments and all it does is wind people up. Bitching about it on the internet won’t make Moffat or the BBC change their mind, and I don’t see any reason why the special can’t celebrate 50 years of Who without having to be beholden to 50 years of Who, and I say that as someone who’ll be thrilled to bits if Peter walks into the Tardis looks at Tennant and says “Not you again” but also as someone who’s primary concern is for a good story rather than a greatest hits collection.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:01 AM   #129
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On the subject of classic Doctors in the 50th...

It’s just the same old circular arguments and all it does is wind people up. Bitching about it on the internet won’t make Moffat or the BBC change their mind, and I don’t see any reason why the special can’t celebrate 50 years of Who without having to be beholden to 50 years of Who, and I say that as someone who’ll be thrilled to bits if Peter walks into the Tardis looks at Tennant and says “Not you again” but also as someone who’s primary concern is for a good story rather than a greatest hits collection.
It's ludicrous to celebrate 50 years of Doctor Who if they totally ignore the first 42 years. Hell, even if they just had a picture of an old Companion or a toy K-9 in the background or a mention of celery or jelly babies, that would be better than nothing at all.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:09 AM   #130
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It's ludicrous to celebrate 50 years of Doctor Who if they totally ignore the first 42 years. Hell, even if they just had a picture of an old Companion or a toy K-9 in the background or a mention of celery or jelly babies, that would be better than nothing at all.
Or, you know, the TARDIS.

I've just celebrated my 40th birthday without ever mentioning anything that happened to me during the first 35 years of my life except my birth, and I don't think it was ludicrous. That the show still exists is the only celebration that is really needed.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:11 AM   #131
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On the subject of classic Doctors in the 50th...

It’s just the same old circular arguments and all it does is wind people up. Bitching about it on the internet won’t make Moffat or the BBC change their mind, and I don’t see any reason why the special can’t celebrate 50 years of Who without having to be beholden to 50 years of Who, and I say that as someone who’ll be thrilled to bits if Peter walks into the Tardis looks at Tennant and says “Not you again” but also as someone who’s primary concern is for a good story rather than a greatest hits collection.
It's ludicrous to celebrate 50 years of Doctor Who if they totally ignore the first 42 years. Hell, even if they just had a picture of an old Companion or a toy K-9 in the background or a mention of celery or jelly babies, that would be better than nothing at all.
Every indication is that such small nods will be in the special, but I know that some people have said that's not enough.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:13 AM   #132
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Re: Original Series Doctors Protest Lack Of 50th Involvement

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On the subject of classic Doctors in the 50th...

It’s just the same old circular arguments and all it does is wind people up. Bitching about it on the internet won’t make Moffat or the BBC change their mind, and I don’t see any reason why the special can’t celebrate 50 years of Who without having to be beholden to 50 years of Who, and I say that as someone who’ll be thrilled to bits if Peter walks into the Tardis looks at Tennant and says “Not you again” but also as someone who’s primary concern is for a good story rather than a greatest hits collection.
It's ludicrous to celebrate 50 years of Doctor Who if they totally ignore the first 42 years. Hell, even if they just had a picture of an old Companion or a toy K-9 in the background or a mention of celery or jelly babies, that would be better than nothing at all.
We don't know that there will be 'nothing at all.' As I keep saying, everyone was taken by surprise by the old clips at the start of 'The Name of the Doctor', so I think that DOTD will also have nods to the old show to surprise us.
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We don't know that there will be 'nothing at all.' As I keep saying, everyone was taken by surprise by the old clips at the start of 'The Name of the Doctor', so I think that DOTD will also have nods to the old show to surprise us.
It's already been hinted (by Matt Smith among others) that we'll see paintings of them. It's the idea that that (or sticking Tom's scarf on a random UNIT scientist) is good enough, that some of us take issue with.

I certainly don't buy Moffat's excuses. He's the one who came up with the get-out clause for the actors looking older in the first place and with the exception of Colin (who'd welcome finally getting to wear something different) their outfits are no more outlandish than Matt Smith's current purple get-up. Hell, John Hurt is practically wearing McGann's Big Finish outfit.
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Old October 16 2013, 11:25 AM   #134
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It's ludicrous to celebrate 50 years of Doctor Who if they totally ignore the first 42 years. Hell, even if they just had a picture of an old Companion or a toy K-9 in the background or a mention of celery or jelly babies, that would be better than nothing at all.
Or, you know, the TARDIS.

I've just celebrated my 40th birthday without ever mentioning anything that happened to me during the first 35 years of my life except my birth, and I don't think it was ludicrous. That the show still exists is the only celebration that is really needed.
The current TARDIS, not any of the older ones.

As for your 40th birthday, that's your own issue. I don't see anyone clamoring to know about your first 35 years, but then you're not a science fiction legend, either.
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Old October 16 2013, 12:17 PM   #135
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It would be fun to see appearances by all surviving Doctor actors in the anniversary special, but clocking in at about 75 minutes, even if Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston weren't involved, we're talking six Doctors including Smith -- seven if you include John Hurt. That's a lot of people.

Moffat already tips the hat to classic Who -- arguably too frequently. I'm all for sitting back and enjoying the anniversary special on its own merits.
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