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Old October 15 2013, 06:01 PM   #91
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Re: Original Series Doctors Protest Lack Of 50th Involvement

Moffat on Classic Doctors: "They're all brilliant, they're all terrific, but time is passed."

Well, that settles it. Sorta.
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Old October 15 2013, 06:16 PM   #92
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It almost seems like he's trying too hard to deny it!
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Old October 15 2013, 06:55 PM   #93
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Nothing could live up to the hype and, let's be honest, we're never going to get anything like either the Three Doctors or Five Doctors ever again.
Good. They were a bit rubbish.
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Old October 15 2013, 06:58 PM   #94
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Nothing could live up to the hype and, let's be honest, we're never going to get anything like either the Three Doctors or Five Doctors ever again.
Good. They were a bit rubbish.
I beg to differ. Sure, The Five Doctors was largely mediocre, but at least it served it purpose: Nostalgia.

And The Three Doctors still holds up pretty well, still.
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Old October 15 2013, 07:02 PM   #95
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I beg to differ. Sure, The Five Doctors was largely mediocre, but at least it served it purpose: Nostalgia.
You're probably right. I have to admit that I don't have the nostalgia gene.
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Old October 15 2013, 07:55 PM   #96
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I beg to differ. Sure, The Five Doctors was largely mediocre, but at least it served it purpose: Nostalgia.
You're probably right. I have to admit that I don't have the nostalgia gene.
I hear you can get Jean therapy for that, these days
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Old October 15 2013, 08:37 PM   #97
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Nothing could live up to the hype and, let's be honest, we're never going to get anything like either the Three Doctors or Five Doctors ever again.
Good. They were a bit rubbish.
No, I quite enjoyed them. Like any story, you'll get a spectrum of how much people like them, or not.

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Old October 15 2013, 09:15 PM   #98
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Nothing could live up to the hype and, let's be honest, we're never going to get anything like either the Three Doctors or Five Doctors ever again.
Good. They were a bit rubbish.
So, if I understand this correctly, the BBC is having a celebration of a 50-year-old program, but essentially saying that everything from the first 42 years is irrelevant?

I loved The Five Doctors, btw. The only "rubbish" part of that was how much "ancient High Gallifreyan" resembles the modern Greek alphabet. And if it weren't for the events of that story, the Master wouldn't have been able to continue as a villain, as he was out of regenerations and existing in a stolen body. The Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations for his actions in this story.
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Old October 15 2013, 10:02 PM   #99
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And if it weren't for the events of that story, the Master wouldn't have been able to continue as a villain, as he was out of regenerations and existing in a stolen body. The Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations for his actions in this story.
Um, I'm not sure the Master actually GOT that new cycle of regenerations. He went straight to the aid of the Doctors, and was returned from wherever he came from at the end of it.
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Old October 15 2013, 10:09 PM   #100
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The Master cannot die. He's like the Joker, but not quite as interesting.
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Old October 15 2013, 10:17 PM   #101
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And if it weren't for the events of that story, the Master wouldn't have been able to continue as a villain, as he was out of regenerations and existing in a stolen body. The Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations for his actions in this story.
Um, I'm not sure the Master actually GOT that new cycle of regenerations. He went straight to the aid of the Doctors, and was returned from wherever he came from at the end of it.
Yea, and just a few stories later (Planet of Fire) he was already looking for new life, of course that might have something to do with becoming vertically challenged.
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Old October 15 2013, 11:05 PM   #102
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And if it weren't for the events of that story, the Master wouldn't have been able to continue as a villain, as he was out of regenerations and existing in a stolen body. The Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations for his actions in this story.
Um, I'm not sure the Master actually GOT that new cycle of regenerations. He went straight to the aid of the Doctors, and was returned from wherever he came from at the end of it.
After doing some research, I haven't found confirmation that the Master got what was promised... but the offer was made, and I don't see any reason why the High Council would renege on that offer.
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Old October 15 2013, 11:33 PM   #103
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And if it weren't for the events of that story, the Master wouldn't have been able to continue as a villain, as he was out of regenerations and existing in a stolen body. The Time Lords gave him a new cycle of regenerations for his actions in this story.
Um, I'm not sure the Master actually GOT that new cycle of regenerations. He went straight to the aid of the Doctors, and was returned from wherever he came from at the end of it.
After doing some research, I haven't found confirmation that the Master got what was promised... but the offer was made, and I don't see any reason why the High Council would renege on that offer.
Well, they did. The TV Movie shows the Master as a dead goo, so they did, apparently forgot about that.

They only remembered him when during the Time War.
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Old October 15 2013, 11:52 PM   #104
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We know the Master tends to go through his regenerations a lot faster than most Time Lords, and we don't know how long the Master's Tremas-body lasted before he had to regenerate again.

It's entirely possible (improbable, but not impossible) that he went through a whole new cycle between the last time Anthony Ainley played the part and the Paul McGann movie.
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No, I quite enjoyed them. Like any story, you'll get a spectrum of how much people like them, or not.
That goes without saying.

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So, if I understand this correctly, the BBC is having a celebration of a 50-year-old program, but essentially saying that everything from the first 42 years is irrelevant?
No, they are having a celebration of a 50-year program, which by definition is a way of stating that it is relevant, but they'd rather be looking forward than provide nostalgia-driven fanservice for a small segment of their audience.
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