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Old September 10 2013, 08:22 PM   #31
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Re: Why does it feel like Smith's run has been way shorter than Tennan

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The whole thing about the Doctor not knowing how old he really is is a fine enough way to explain the various age inconsistencies which have popped up over the series. But that really only applies to his TARDIS life. Presumably before him and Susan left Gallifrey, he spent his entire life there with the exceptions of the occasional Time Lord field trip, so he'd have an accurate way to keep track of how old he was. Then once he ran off in the TARDIS and it became impossible to track the progression of time from his perspective, he began pulling random numbers and giving them as his age. But I'm guessing he could have been a couple of hundred years old before, since the first Doctor's regeneration was the result of dying of natural causes.
I can't agree with that, the Doctors on the old series aged fairly naturally with the second Doctor saying he was 450 and the seventh saying he's 953, it was until RTD wrote him as being 902 that there was a problem with his age.
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Old September 10 2013, 08:44 PM   #32
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Re: Why does it feel like Smith's run has been way shorter than Tennan

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The whole thing about the Doctor not knowing how old he really is is a fine enough way to explain the various age inconsistencies which have popped up over the series. But that really only applies to his TARDIS life. Presumably before him and Susan left Gallifrey, he spent his entire life there with the exceptions of the occasional Time Lord field trip, so he'd have an accurate way to keep track of how old he was. Then once he ran off in the TARDIS and it became impossible to track the progression of time from his perspective, he began pulling random numbers and giving them as his age. But I'm guessing he could have been a couple of hundred years old before, since the first Doctor's regeneration was the result of dying of natural causes.
I can't agree with that, the Doctors on the old series aged fairly naturally with the second Doctor saying he was 450 and the seventh saying he's 953, it was until RTD wrote him as being 902 that there was a problem with his age.
I can't cite the instance(s), but, I'm pretty sure, there is at least once in Classic Who, where a later Doctor cites himself as younger than what an earlier Doctor cited.

But, again, especially once Gallifrey was gone, how could the Doctor possibly keep track of how old he is, cramming a normal lifetime of Memories into only a single month. And who's years are they? Earth Years? Gallifreyan Years?
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Old September 10 2013, 08:56 PM   #33
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Re: Why does it feel like Smith's run has been way shorter than Tennan

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The whole thing about the Doctor not knowing how old he really is is a fine enough way to explain the various age inconsistencies which have popped up over the series. But that really only applies to his TARDIS life. Presumably before him and Susan left Gallifrey, he spent his entire life there with the exceptions of the occasional Time Lord field trip, so he'd have an accurate way to keep track of how old he was. Then once he ran off in the TARDIS and it became impossible to track the progression of time from his perspective, he began pulling random numbers and giving them as his age. But I'm guessing he could have been a couple of hundred years old before, since the first Doctor's regeneration was the result of dying of natural causes.
I can't agree with that, the Doctors on the old series aged fairly naturally with the second Doctor saying he was 450 and the seventh saying he's 953, it was until RTD wrote him as being 902 that there was a problem with his age.
I also have a problem with Smith's Doctor having a 200-year lifespan in "The Impossible Astronaut." That's a LONG time, which means he could have easily gone decades without even seeing Amy and Rory. I have a hard time believing that he could have that much time pass and still act like he hangs out with them all the time.
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Old September 11 2013, 01:28 AM   #34
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Re: Why does it feel like Smith's run has been way shorter than Tennan

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The whole thing about the Doctor not knowing how old he really is is a fine enough way to explain the various age inconsistencies which have popped up over the series. But that really only applies to his TARDIS life. Presumably before him and Susan left Gallifrey, he spent his entire life there with the exceptions of the occasional Time Lord field trip, so he'd have an accurate way to keep track of how old he was. Then once he ran off in the TARDIS and it became impossible to track the progression of time from his perspective, he began pulling random numbers and giving them as his age. But I'm guessing he could have been a couple of hundred years old before, since the first Doctor's regeneration was the result of dying of natural causes.
I can't agree with that, the Doctors on the old series aged fairly naturally with the second Doctor saying he was 450 and the seventh saying he's 953, it was until RTD wrote him as being 902 that there was a problem with his age.
I can't cite the instance(s), but, I'm pretty sure, there is at least once in Classic Who, where a later Doctor cites himself as younger than what an earlier Doctor cited.

But, again, especially once Gallifrey was gone, how could the Doctor possibly keep track of how old he is, cramming a normal lifetime of Memories into only a single month. And who's years are they? Earth Years? Gallifreyan Years?
the fourth Doctor claimed he was 749 but in The Ribos Operation Romana corrected him saying his real age was 759, that might be what you mean.
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Old September 11 2013, 01:32 AM   #35
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I also have a problem with Smith's Doctor having a 200-year lifespan in "The Impossible Astronaut." That's a LONG time, which means he could have easily gone decades without even seeing Amy and Rory. I have a hard time believing that he could have that much time pass and still act like he hangs out with them all the time.
Blame that on Moffat, the Doctor in The Impossible Astronaut says he's 1102, so of course in order for that claim to be true he had to age the Doctor.
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Old September 11 2013, 04:00 AM   #36
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The whole thing about the Doctor not knowing how old he really is is a fine enough way to explain the various age inconsistencies which have popped up over the series. But that really only applies to his TARDIS life. Presumably before him and Susan left Gallifrey, he spent his entire life there with the exceptions of the occasional Time Lord field trip, so he'd have an accurate way to keep track of how old he was. Then once he ran off in the TARDIS and it became impossible to track the progression of time from his perspective, he began pulling random numbers and giving them as his age. But I'm guessing he could have been a couple of hundred years old before, since the first Doctor's regeneration was the result of dying of natural causes.
I can't agree with that, the Doctors on the old series aged fairly naturally with the second Doctor saying he was 450 and the seventh saying he's 953, it was until RTD wrote him as being 902 that there was a problem with his age.
The Third Doctor made a couple claims of being a thousand.
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^Yeah. I was just watching "The Mind of Evil," where the 3rd Doctor seems like he's going to say something about how he has thousands of years worth of experience, but he cuts himself off mid-sentence and we don't even know for sure if he was going to say "years" or something else.
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