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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old September 16 2013, 01:54 AM   #46
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Re: Why didn't Chang challenge Gorkon?

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Acting like a real person is one thing. Expressing the sentiment that an entire race should go extinct is another. There are a lot of ways to be a believable, flawed human being without ever uttering a word about genocide. They could've had Kirk and the others be uneasy with the prospect of peace without taking it in such a racially oriented direction.
I'll agree with you on this point, as I've often wondered what point Myer was trying to make by including the racism. TUC was released only a few months before the Rodney King Riots happened, so it could easily be used as a social commentary on the necessity of overcoming racism to serve one's country or civilization. But I don't think that's what Meyer was going for. How could he? He wouldn't have known about the riots when writing TUC.

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Old September 16 2013, 02:22 AM   #47
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Re: Why didn't Chang challenge Gorkon?

Well, TUC was an allegory for the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. There was a lot of hostility between the US and the USSR, but I don't think it often translated to actual ethnic hatred; generally people disliked the other government but were more accepting of their common people.

But for what it's worth, I think people in LA were probably well aware of the racial tensions that existed there for quite a while before the riots brought them to a boil.
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Old September 16 2013, 02:52 AM   #48
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But he was also the one who reached out to Mara and tried to convince her there was a better way than war between their peoples.
aka the one TOS episode where the Klingons didn't come off as complete bastards willing to do anything or kill anyone to get what they want.
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Old September 18 2013, 01:03 PM   #49
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Acting like a real person is one thing. Expressing the sentiment that an entire race should go extinct is another. There are a lot of ways to be a believable, flawed human being without ever uttering a word about genocide. They could've had Kirk and the others be uneasy with the prospect of peace without taking it in such a racially oriented direction.
Kirks outburst wasnt to suggest genocide, Kirks response was to sit back and do nothing which is a whole other moral conundrum; do you help a mortal enemy in their hour of need? = the answer by the end of the film was a yes.

The only person who directly inferred genocide was West when he mentioned "cleaning their chronometers" and wipe them out.

End of the day Starfleet had been at a constant state of war with the Klingons since before this crew joined up, no wonder they would be jaded against them.
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