RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,123
Posts: 5,401,217
Members: 24,744
Currently online: 626
Newest member: rachaela3

TrekToday headlines

Trek Merchandise Sale
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek #39 Villain Revealed
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Trek Big Bang Figures
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek Seekers Cover Art
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Fan Film Axanar Kickstarter Success
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Two New Starship Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Actor Wins Emmy
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Retro Watches
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

New DS9 eBook To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Aug 25

Trek Ice Cube Maker and Shot Glasses
By: T'Bonz on Aug 25


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Doctor Who

Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 4 2013, 02:11 PM   #1
Mitty
Vice Admiral
 
Mitty's Avatar
 
Location: Melbourne
What if... (poss spoilers)

... they regenerate 11 into 12 at the end of the 50th Anniversary, rather than in the Xmas special? What if the Xmas Special will actually feature Capaldi, and it's currently all under wraps?

Someone I follow on twitter suggested this.

Two things point to this:

a) Matt Smith shaved his head to shoot a film. Yes of course he can wear a wig, but it seems strange that they didn't film the Xmas special str8 after The 50th. The only reason not to is that at that stage they didn't yet have a 12th Doctor for the regeneration scene, and they certainly don't need him at the same time. Tennant filmed his part of the Ecclestone regen scene months later as he hadn't been cast yet when Ecclestone Regenerated.

b) Matt Smith filmed a video with him holding up cards and thanking the fans, from where he was shooting the film. It seemed very final, like he truly planned not to return.

Unless somebody knows for a fact that Smith is yet to or currently filming the xmas special?
__________________
I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no one to stand around looking impressed, what's the point in having you all? - The Doctor, interrupting a very important conversation.
Mitty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 02:20 PM   #2
Emperor-Tiberius
Fleet Captain
 
Emperor-Tiberius's Avatar
 
Location: Kavala, Greece
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

That would suck, IMO. The 50th should be about the franchise as a whole, and not about the Eleventh Doctor. The Christmas Special, on the other hand, SHOULD focus on being Eleven's final story, and as such get the full attention that it deserves. For all its fault, at the very least End of Time was a regeneration story about the Tenth Doctor, and it showcased everything (and everyone, lol) that marked his era. Do the same honor for Eleven - honestly, he's been a very good Doctor, and deserves a proper final story, and not one thats during the 50th.
__________________
"Spock...?" Kirk said, whispering.
"I am... most pleased to see again, Captain" Spock formally replied.
McCoy shook his head in disgust. "Oh, for crying out loud, Spock. Its been eighty years!"
"Seventy eight point four years, Doctor."

The Holy Three meet again, in The Return

Last edited by Emperor-Tiberius; September 4 2013 at 08:05 PM.
Emperor-Tiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 02:36 PM   #3
Starkers
Admiral
 
Starkers's Avatar
 
Location: Paddling...
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

I'm with the Emperor on this. I'll be exceedingly dissapointed if the 50th is the last time we see Eleven, he deserves his own swansong.

That said Allyn Gibson postulated the same thing a week or two back so the idea's out there. I can't imagine it though, not when Moffat clearly said Smith would be in the christmas special and the regeneration would be then. He could lie of course, but that would generate a lot of bad will, besides unless they're planning to film the entire crimbo special indoors it'll leak...

I do wonder if we might get more of Capaldi than the average post regeneration few seconds. I'm torn on this, on the one hand it would be interesting if the regen happened fifteen minutes from the end and a confused, dischevelled 12th Doctor had to resolve the situation, but on the other hand I really want the episode to mainly be about Eleven.
__________________
Werewolves on the Moon Now with Guardians of the Galaxy review

The Devils of Amber Street
Starkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 02:42 PM   #4
Samurai8472
Vice Admiral
 
Samurai8472's Avatar
 
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Matt Smith, now recovered from a knee op, spoke to reporters from ITV's morning show Daybreak last night and he confirmed Christmas Special filming is this Sunday and he'll be wearing a wig, as his hair is now even SHORTER than it originally was for filming his movie "How to Catch a Monster"
__________________
"Inception" is a layer cake.
Samurai8472 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 02:57 PM   #5
diankra
Commodore
 
Location: UK
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

The problem is that we always get leaked location shots, so the absence of Matt would surely be obvious. However, I wouldn't entirely rule out the regeneration happening in mid-story, so the Christmas special can end on the up-note of the new Doctor saving the day, not the down-note of the regeneration.
__________________
"Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from."
"Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left."
(Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)
diankra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 03:03 PM   #6
Allyn Gibson
Vice Admiral
 
Allyn Gibson's Avatar
 
Location: South Pennsyltucky
View Allyn Gibson's Twitter Profile Send a message via AIM to Allyn Gibson Send a message via Yahoo to Allyn Gibson
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Samurai8472 wrote: View Post
Matt Smith, now recovered from a knee op, spoke to reporters from ITV's morning show Daybreak last night and he confirmed Christmas Special filming is this Sunday and he'll be wearing a wig, as his hair is now even SHORTER than it originally was for filming his movie "How to Catch a Monster"
Won't be the first time an actor has had to wear a wig when they played the Doctor. Hopefully, unlike McGann, we won't hear for years and years how uncomfortable Matt Smith found his wig.
__________________
"When David Marcus cited the great thinkers of history -- "Newton, Einstein, Surak" -- Newt Gingrich did not make his list." -- 24 January 2012

allyngibson.net
Allyn Gibson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 05:55 PM   #7
The Wormhole
Admiral
 
The Wormhole's Avatar
 
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

BBC said in their official press release that the Christmas special will be Matt Smith's finale, therefore it has to be due to BBC's policy of not lying to the audience.
__________________
"Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.
The Wormhole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 06:15 PM   #8
Sindatur
Vice Admiral
 
Sindatur's Avatar
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Allyn Gibson wrote: View Post
Samurai8472 wrote: View Post
Matt Smith, now recovered from a knee op, spoke to reporters from ITV's morning show Daybreak last night and he confirmed Christmas Special filming is this Sunday and he'll be wearing a wig, as his hair is now even SHORTER than it originally was for filming his movie "How to Catch a Monster"
Won't be the first time an actor has had to wear a wig when they played the Doctor. Hopefully, unlike McGann, we won't hear for years and years how uncomfortable Matt Smith found his wig.
Heh, at least he didn't have to wear a curly blonde wig and a costume that was 2x too large for him in his first scene (Ala Sylvester McCoy)
__________________
One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am

Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?
Sindatur is online now   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 09:53 PM   #9
Starkers
Admiral
 
Starkers's Avatar
 
Location: Paddling...
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

diankra wrote: View Post
The problem is that we always get leaked location shots, so the absence of Matt would surely be obvious. However, I wouldn't entirely rule out the regeneration happening in mid-story, so the Christmas special can end on the up-note of the new Doctor saving the day, not the down-note of the regeneration.
It might also preclude Capaldi spending most of his first proper episode out of sorts. I would feel Smith had been slightly cheated though...
__________________
Werewolves on the Moon Now with Guardians of the Galaxy review

The Devils of Amber Street
Starkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 10:24 PM   #10
Captaindemotion
Vice Admiral
 
Captaindemotion's Avatar
 
Location: Ireland
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

I'm too lazy to link it but the DW Facebook page is saying that Matt, cast and crew attended the read-through for the Xmas special today. So that's that.
__________________
Hodor!!!!!!!
Captaindemotion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 10:29 PM   #11
Mitty
Vice Admiral
 
Mitty's Avatar
 
Location: Melbourne
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Ah, good to hear I was wrong. On one hand I do think a surprise regeneration would be exciting, but (and I know this sounds ridiculous) I would also feel cheated that we didn't get a proper goodbye to Matt. Just say Tennant HAD regenerated in "Journeys End", it would have had fare less impact then the final sequence of "End of Time" had. I know people don't like parts of that but for the final "Reward" sequence is for me one of the most amazing things ever on TV.
__________________
I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no one to stand around looking impressed, what's the point in having you all? - The Doctor, interrupting a very important conversation.
Mitty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 4 2013, 10:49 PM   #12
Emperor-Tiberius
Fleet Captain
 
Emperor-Tiberius's Avatar
 
Location: Kavala, Greece
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Yeah, the last 30 minutes or so of End of Time are well worth watching that story alone.

As much as I would love to get an extended Peter Capaldi appearence in the Xmas special, I really rather the story serves as the cap to Matt Smith's tenure. Capaldi will have, hopefully, plenty of time to develop his own characterization for the Doctor during series 8, so lets just enjoy the Eleventh Doctor at full force one last time - that is, when it is to be.

That all said, does anyone think there should at least be an Amy-Rory cameo? I know this borders on the End Of Time cliche, so I'm not insistent or anything... just a thought.
__________________
"Spock...?" Kirk said, whispering.
"I am... most pleased to see again, Captain" Spock formally replied.
McCoy shook his head in disgust. "Oh, for crying out loud, Spock. Its been eighty years!"
"Seventy eight point four years, Doctor."

The Holy Three meet again, in The Return
Emperor-Tiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 5 2013, 12:07 AM   #13
BruntFCA
Commander
 
BruntFCA's Avatar
 
Location: A Mile High
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Emperor-Tiberius wrote: View Post
That all said, does anyone think there should at least be an Amy-Rory cameo? I know this borders on the End Of Time cliche, so I'm not insistent or anything... just a thought.
I hope not, they had a great send off and they should leave well enough alone.
__________________
"Well, I come from a long, long line of smartasses. Smartass is allergic to dumbass. It’s actually a physical allergy, as in you’re repulsed by dumbasses."
Josh Homme
BruntFCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 5 2013, 03:09 AM   #14
The Wormhole
Admiral
 
The Wormhole's Avatar
 
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

Emperor-Tiberius wrote: View Post
That all said, does anyone think there should at least be an Amy-Rory cameo? I know this borders on the End Of Time cliche, so I'm not insistent or anything... just a thought.
I'll be surprised if there isn't.
__________________
"Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.
The Wormhole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 5 2013, 04:15 AM   #15
Professor Zoom
Vice Admiral
 
Professor Zoom's Avatar
 
Location: Idealistic
Re: What if... (poss spoilers)

If Amy appears she'll also have to be wigged. If they want her to look as she did. Because, ya know, the Doctor can't ever see them again or Oh My God! Paradox! All of New York, Gone!

I'm sure they'll be there, but after that send off, I couldn't care less about them. Blech.
__________________
Batman does not eat nachos.
Professor Zoom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.