I don't think it was harsh of Marshall at all. He's always been the more considerate of the two, always supportive of Lily pursuing her dream. He's also probably right that if things had gone differently in San Francisco she might never have gone back to him. He's earned a little selfishness at this point, IMO.
He was certainly justified in what he said, the part I felt was harsh though was equating him and Marvin to "consolation prizes." Don't get me wrong, I am in no way trying to defend Lily (at least not in this argument), but it's pretty apparent his comments were meant to hurt, and hurt they did.
As soon as she said that line i immediately remembered the season 1 finale where she absolutely devastated Marshal by going to New York for selfish reasons.. seconds before Marshal said it out loud and hit a very painful bullseye. One thing that became apparent back then was that Marshal could have made it without Lily.. he went through the typical phases of a breakup but he was well on the way to recovery and moving on with his life when she returned and Marshal graciously accepted her back. Now the problem simply is the passed time after Marshal brought it up again.. 8 years is a long time but it's apparent Marshal didn't fully forgive her and put it to rest which is a very dangerous thing ( i know people who repeat things that were done 20-30 years ago during a fight and it's very ugly). I agree that Marshal seems to be the softer, more forgiving part of the relationship but he still went behind the back of Lily with a life changing decision and he doesn't get to play the "You've done it before so now it's my turn!" card in this case. I know it's for drama purposes but in the age of cell phones not being able to call the other to talk it out (even if it's impersonal) doesn't fly and no job, apart from medical and military, needs split second decisions. I'm curious how this gets resolved.. both are following their dreams which are unfortunately at opposite ends so one has to give (it'll obviously be Lily i believe because the couple needs to stay in the vicinity of the other couples).
In Marshall's defense, he was honest with her about applying for the job last season. But when he was offered the job over the phone earlier this season, it was a "take it or leave it" opportunity, he did not have the option to consult with his wife. In fact, the show went into great detail about that in the episode in which he was offered the job (Can I do it next year? etc). He then felt that he needed to tell Lily face-to-face, which he could not do until making it back to New York for the wedding.
I agree with the points made. I always felt that it was more of a hobby for Lily. Plus, I thought I wouldn't want that job if I was a real artist, except as a freelancer on the side perhaps. The Captain kept telling her what to do. I got the impression some of the picks she made was really the Captain's with little input from Lily. Also, Lily was all about it being her dream. I don't think she dreamed about being an art consultant for a rich guy in Italy fora year.
<<Nothing selfish? What about hiding mounds of credit card debt from huge shopping sprees? >> OMG! I totally forgot about that! Marshall should have brought that up too! I need the judge job to pay off your massive credit card debt!
Episode 200! How Your Mother Met Me... A predictable episode on many levels. - We knew it was coming when the season was announced. - Different Intro... Check! - As expected, they took us through the key moments where she appeared before. - Ted couldn't actually meet her and sure enough he didn't. Still good to actually see though. The only thing I didn't like was that they gave her too much baggage.
Everyone has baggage. I missed the first few minutes of the episode (no cable so no DVR) so I don't know all the details but I think it's impossible for someone single in their late 20s or early 30s not to have a lot of baggage. I'm 34 and single and I certainly related to the mother in this episode.
Disappointed they went the whole time without naming her, but expected I guess. Backstory was ok, just felt a little short. Maybe I was expecting too much. Also, despite the title, she didn't actually meet him, although she'd seen him around I guess...
Well, he hasn't met her either, and we know for a fact this season concludes with said meeting. Not really that big of a disappointment. It's more "her journey through life to the point where she's ready to meet Ted".
Really good episode. Like everyone else it was pretty predictable because most of the stuff that happened was the stuff that we talked about before the season even started One thing I was disappointed about though was that we didn't get the Mother telling the story to her kids for this episode.
Amen to that. This episode hit pretty close to home due to the loss of someone in my own life relatively recently. It rang true to me.
Yeah, or he started singing along or something like that. I did enjoy it a lot though, and I think they definitely picked the perfect actress to play the mother because I found it quite a touching episode, I mean her speech to the stars was great and we never even met Max! It was nice to see the return of some things...and Mitch!
So happy to see naked guy again! I loved the episode, and thought it was very sweet. I enjoyed seeing all the callbacks to older episodes. I was a bit worried where the season was going back during the opening episodes, but things have certainly turned around. The mother has been a brilliant addition to the cast, and now I can't wait for next week.