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Old September 14 2013, 08:41 AM   #1
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JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

"It was something that without question didn't help the movie, and arguably hurt it."

Yeah, literally dozens of fans must have said, "This game is terrible, I will no longer pay to see the next movie at the cinema."

http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/09/ab...ss-box-office/

That said, I don't think he's wrong about the approach to movie tie-in games. The game should be made great from the ground up, regardless of what it is based on.
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Old September 14 2013, 09:38 AM   #2
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

I watched all the preview stuff on the game. Ultimately it was: nah, not for me. Looks a bit crap.

Didn't affect my enjoyment of movie though.

Did think it nice though to read about a director actively engaging with a movie/game tie-in for a change. If I was Cameron, I'd be apoplectic about that dreadful ACM game crapping over my legacy.
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Old September 14 2013, 10:53 AM   #3
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

LOL, blame the fans, blame the game. What next, the weather?
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Old September 14 2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

Tosk wrote: View Post
"It was something that without question didn't help the movie, and arguably hurt it."

Yeah, literally dozens of fans must have said, "This game is terrible, I will no longer pay to see the next movie at the cinema."

http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/09/ab...ss-box-office/

That said, I don't think he's wrong about the approach to movie tie-in games. The game should be made great from the ground up, regardless of what it is based on.
Not once in that interview does Abrams say that the game hurt box office sales. That was the article writer's fabrication to get more page views with a more sensational claim, and the writer clearly has a bias:

I don’t know, maybe if Into Darkness wasn’t so filled with plot holes and dumb story decisions it would’ve done better in the box office. Blaming a game that hardly anyone played is a poor way to explain your movie not performing as well as its predecessor.
If you watch the interview and see what he's saying right before the out of context quote, Abrams was very clearly talking about how the game tied in creatively with the universe (poorly, as it turns out), and how disappointed he was in that because it could have added something to the world building of the alternate universe, but instead took something away in his opinion.
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Old September 14 2013, 01:00 PM   #5
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

Is the game really that bad, I just bought it? LOL.
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Old September 14 2013, 01:06 PM   #6
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

I don't know, myself. I didn't get it because I heard from friends and in reviews that it was pretty terrible.
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Old September 14 2013, 01:23 PM   #7
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

The game was average. Certainly better than most tie-ins. Here is the review I wrote for the game:

Star Trek fans have been eagerly awaiting a brand new game based around their favorite franchise for quite some time. Over the years we have been privy to a great number games and most of them have been terrible. The last Star Trek game (Star Trek D-L-C) that followed quickly on the heels of the 2009 JJ Abrams film was a PSN and XBL exclusive game that largely sucked.

Is this new Trek game, a third person shooter from NAMCO/Bandi the answer to Trek fans collective prayers? Yes………and……no.

THE PRO’s ::
- Above Average Voice Acting
- Excellent Score/Soundtrack
- Solid Story
- Decent Cut Scenes

Much like any video game based around a film franchise the game makers will try to model the characters to look like the actors in the film and (if you are lucky get the actors to record a line or two of dialog). In NAMCO/Bandi’s Star Trek we get performances from everyone starting with Chris Pine and Zachary Qunito all the way down to Zoe Saldana, and Simon Pegg! And they actually put some effort into the game.

The makers of this game also acquired the help of Academy Award Winner Michael Giacchino (who scored both JJ Abrams Trek films). He fully scored the entire game with all new music and it is fantastic. Where the game design some times lacks in providing atmosphere the soundtrack makes up for it.

There is a decent story involving the Gorn. The Gorn are most famous for the infamously terrible TV battle with Jim Kirk in the Original Star Trek series, this game gives them some back story and expands on the species. The story itself is nothing special and isn't expansive like Mass Effect, in fact it is more akin to Arkham City just without all the superbness.

THE CON’S ::
- Co-Op is insanely glitchy
- Terribly uneven graphics
- Standard amount of bugs and glitches
- Uneven control response

I don’t play co-op very often although this game allows you to play in free standing co-op shoot ‘em up modes and it lets you play co-op through the story but there has been A LOT of negative response as far as the glitches in the online co-op goes.

The graphics are VERY uneven. At times the game looks pretty good with the main character models looking solid (cut scenes are usually fantastic) but often things look like PS2 quality or worse which is just unacceptable running on the PS3 hardware. Sometimes the set pieces are pretty sweet and look great other times it looks a little rushed.

Often times you will run into some bugs and glitches in the story but nothing game breaking. Your partners AI and the enemy AI is however……awful. And if you find yourself in a situation where you must keep moving or running you can up taking cover when you don’t want to (shades of Mass Effect sometimes).

VERDICT:
3 Geeky Glasses

I enjoyed playing the game but it wasn't the blow away game that some fans were expecting after so many years. It has its good moments and its bad. What it ultimately comes down to for you is how big of a Star Trek fan you are and how much graphics quality plays in to your enjoyment of a game.
http://www.cinemageekly.com/review-star-trek-ps3/
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Old September 14 2013, 01:32 PM   #8
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

Thanks for the review.

I guess I don't have much of a choice now that I've already bought it. LOL.
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Old September 14 2013, 04:09 PM   #9
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

That game broke down so many times for me. I was really irritated.


But It never for a moment made me think "Oh, I guess I won't watch the new movie then."

I mean, imagine if that's the reaction I had back when I got Star Trek on the NES. "This game is terrible, there's no way i'm going to watch Star Trek 6 now!"
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Old September 14 2013, 04:15 PM   #10
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

CommishSleer wrote: View Post
Thanks for the review.

I guess I don't have much of a choice now that I've already bought it. LOL.
It's really not terrible, just average. In some places its actually great.

Post credits scene as well that leads into STiD.
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Old September 14 2013, 04:15 PM   #11
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

It just has some really wonky controls and some shitty space combat.
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Old September 14 2013, 04:25 PM   #12
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Re: JJ thinks ST Game Could Have Hurt STID Box Office?

I'm too old to care about video games.

Kids today. ( shakes fist )
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Old September 15 2013, 04:22 AM   #13
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CommishSleer wrote: View Post
Is the game really that bad, I just bought it? LOL.

From what I have seen and heard it's basically a cheap knockoff of Mass Effect.
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Old September 15 2013, 11:48 AM   #14
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I played this game. It's not as bad as the reviews say. Yes, stealth gameplay is bad, some levels are repetitive and the ending sucks. BUT, the story feels like it belongs in the new Trek-universe and I liked the voice acting.

I tell you, compared to Klingon Honor Guard and Generations, this is a masterpiece. Now those were awful games.
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Old September 15 2013, 11:58 AM   #15
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Can't see how the game can be blamed for the box office taking of STID, after all it might come as shocking news but game consoles are worldwide and correct me if I'm wrong but non-US box office taking was up.
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