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Old July 9 2013, 11:04 PM   #1
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Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

I think the thing we can all agree on is the fact that the USS Vengeance from Star Trek Into Darkness was awesome looking.

The Dreadnought class seems to be designed purely as a
& the prototype was


Does anybody else wonder if Starfleet continued the production line and just put them in storage for a time if they were ever to be needed? Or scaled them down and replaced the weapons with labs and scientific equipment? I'd hate for Starfleet to just mothball such a badass design because of its prototype.
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Old July 10 2013, 01:33 AM   #2
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

I got the impression she was a one-off built for Marcus as a command ship. You could see some of her tech trickle into future starship designs, though.
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Old July 10 2013, 04:52 AM   #3
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

I reckon we might see the USS Vengeance's legacy in future starfleet starships - particularly if the next movie showcases


As it was simply the Prototype that was


The interesting thing about the Vengeance is that it's lineage harks back to the Narada (emerging several decades earlier in the Alt timeline), which was a future Romulan Mining ship (from the 24th Century Prime timeline), enhanced with Borg Tech... so the Vengeance really is quite an advanced starship / oddity, by anyones standards...

I'd be really surprised if Starfleet did away with her specs completely... despite


EDIT: I was also intrigued to see

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Old July 10 2013, 04:55 AM   #4
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Her nacelles did look similar to the refit Enterprise's. So there's that.
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Old July 10 2013, 05:14 AM   #5
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USS Vengeance is comparable to the Reman Scimitar. Built with a war in mind and has all the bells and whistles to be a one ship war machine. I doubt Starfleet would let the technological attributes and advances completely go to waste in future models. Not saying they'll build more like it, but everything that can be salvaged from the wreck will probably be catalog and used for reference when it comes to build the next line of starship.
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Old July 10 2013, 01:22 PM   #6
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

Until I actually read the thread, I had thought that the discussion here was about how long the Vengeance project had been in the works. I suspect that its creation pre-dates the discovery of the Botany Bay by a considerable timespan.
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Until I actually read the thread, I had thought that the discussion here was about how long the Vengeance project had been in the works. I suspect that its creation pre-dates the discovery of the Botany Bay by a considerable timespan.
That makes perfect sense. The unfreezing of Khan probably slowed the design/construction process down slightly because they used his Eugenics War experience to upgrade the weapons systems and other tech. But the Vengeance was going to be created no matter what. What we see in the film is just a more dangerous version than originally designed by Section 31.
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

Starfleet would be foolish not to use this design. It may have been built and launched under circumstances which were not ideal, but the design itself is out there. It's useable. It could have any number of uses, in or out of wartime.

If there are no other ships of the class NOW, there should be soon. Get more ships built and do it fast. The next time war comes, Starfleet will be glad it did.

In the hands of a proper command crew, with orders coming from the real Starfleet (not some criminal conspiracy called Section 31), this ship could be a force for good. And a bloody good one at that.
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Old July 10 2013, 06:56 PM   #10
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I always figured the Vengeance was incomplete, Marcus just wanted her launched now.
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Old July 11 2013, 04:24 AM   #11
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^^^ Thanks for confirming that! Would have been cool to see those in action
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Old July 11 2013, 12:03 PM   #12
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

I think the thing we can all agree on is the fact that the USS Vengeance from Star Trek Into Darkness was awesome looking.
Speak for yourself. I thought it was horrible looking, like something that belonged more in Transformers. There are a couple of nice angles, but otherwise, ugly IMO.
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Old July 11 2013, 01:48 PM   #13
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Will the dreadnought class have landing gear next time round?
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Old July 11 2013, 01:48 PM   #14
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In the hands of a proper command crew, with orders coming from the real Starfleet (not some criminal conspiracy called Section 31), this ship could be a force for good. And a bloody good one at that.
Umm, isn't that what the Enterprise is for?
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Re: Dreadnought-Class Production Line (Spoilers?)

^ That too. But with war with the Klingons looming, Starfleet will need all the power it can get its hands on. Assuming the blueprints for the Vengeance-class ships still exist, Starfleet would be foolish not to use them.
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