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Old August 30 2013, 04:08 PM   #16
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That's too much of a coincidence. I think someone in the naming department is a closet Trek fan.
I've thought that for a long time....

I wonder if it's going to be outfitted with a cloaking device.......
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Old August 30 2013, 04:09 PM   #17
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It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.
Perhaps it's not meant to describe the vessel, but the faith the users have in the vessel (as in they rely upon it).
Perhaps it just sounds good......
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Old August 30 2013, 04:46 PM   #18
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It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.
Perhaps it's not meant to describe the vessel, but the faith the users have in the vessel (as in they rely upon it).
Perhaps it just sounds good......
Perhaps ... but the explanation could take into account the history of vessels named HMS Reliance and the possibility of semantic change.
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Old September 5 2013, 05:08 AM   #19
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It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.
Apparently one of the non-primary definitions of reliant is "confident", which I can see being high on a list of military virtues.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reliant
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It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.
Apparently one of the non-primary definitions of reliant is "confident", which I can see being high on a list of military virtues.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reliant
That is the way I would take it.
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