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Old May 27 2014, 11:27 PM   #91
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DeviantArt user UsualSuspex has a number of really awesome pieces of Trek art and TrekLit art, including this great depiction of the Aventine in orbit of Andor during The Fall: A Ceremony of Losses:

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Old May 31 2014, 08:27 PM   #92
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From TNG: Indistinguishable from Magic: Madam Chairman Sela's IRW Stormcrow (courtesy of the Tal Shiar) was named a Valdore-class ship in the book. Presumably, it was intended to be a Mogai-class warbird - but Star Trek Online conveniently filled th gap with a design of their own:
Link to Memoby Beta: http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Valdore_class
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Old May 31 2014, 08:40 PM   #93
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^ I love fixes like that. Good one!
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Old May 31 2014, 09:45 PM   #94
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Star Trek Online also names the basic 25th century Romulan bird of prey as the T'varo class light warbird (which may or may not be the 22nd century ENT design in continuous usage since then). We could imagine that the T'varo class is also the class of the birds of prey featured in 2380 in the novel Q & A although T'varo is also used in a Last Unicorn RPG module slightly differently albeit not visualized.

However, they name the 23rd century bird of prey (as seen in TOS: "Balance of Terror") as T'liss class light warbird while the ENT relaunch uses T'liss for the converted Romulan drone ships.
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Old June 1 2014, 06:59 AM   #95
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Star Trek Online also names the basic 25th century Romulan bird of prey as the T'varo class light warbird (which may or may not be the 22nd century ENT design in continuous usage since then). We could imagine that the T'varo class is also the class of the birds of prey featured in 2380 in the novel Q & A although T'varo is also used in a Last Unicorn RPG module slightly differently albeit not visualized.

However, they name the 23rd century bird of prey (as seen in TOS: "Balance of Terror") as T'liss class light warbird while the ENT relaunch uses T'liss for the converted Romulan drone ships.
Due to being a century later, they can both T'Liss-class. In the span of a century, there are three Virginia-class in the USN, first a Virginia-class battleship, then a Virginia-class nuclear cruiser, and now a Virginia-class nuclear attack submarine.
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Old June 1 2014, 07:08 AM   #96
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Does anyone know where Memory Beta's image of Miranda Kadohata came from?
Here they explain how they came to use the image and why.
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Old June 1 2014, 09:53 AM   #97
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Does anyone know where Memory Beta's image of Miranda Kadohata came from?
Here they explain how they came to use the image and why.
"Approved image"? Surely the actress and BSG producers get a say as to whether them and a shot from their show is approved for use in anything relating to Star Trek? Fanfiction and fanart with unauthorized photoshopped actors is one thing, but I expect better of a licenced Star Trek product.
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Old June 1 2014, 09:58 AM   #98
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Does anyone know where Memory Beta's image of Miranda Kadohata came from?
Here they explain how they came to use the image and why.
"Approved image"? Surely the actress and BSG producers get a say as to whether them and a shot from their show is approved for use in anything relating to Star Trek? Fanfiction and fanart with unauthorized photoshopped actors is one thing, but I expect better of a licenced Star Trek product.

It's approved as in, Memory Beta allowed the photo. If you look at MB, all images are from Licensed Star Trek materials.
However, MB is NOT making money of this, so they don't need approvel from the actress and the BSG producers. The image is online, so it's free to use for non-profit stuff.
I mean, look at all the photoshops with famous actors on 9gag, or used for fanfics.

Now, if CBS started using this picture on the cover of novels, it becomes another matter. But nowhere on that Memory Beta page does it say that CBS approved this image. Memory Beta did. And again, since they are non-profit, it doesn't matter.
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Old June 1 2014, 10:24 AM   #99
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I see what you're saying, but when it's "approved" and relating to a for-profit endeavour like Trek's novels (and MB does say it's approved by the authors), it's a slippery slope. Memory Beta is associated with licenced material so it's very much giving the impression that Stephanie Chaves-Jacobsen is the official Miranda Kadohata of the Trek novelverse, and unless she has given permission to use her likeness that should not be.
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Old June 1 2014, 06:59 PM   #100
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I see what you're saying, but when it's "approved" and relating to a for-profit endeavour like Trek's novels (and MB does say it's approved by the authors), it's a slippery slope. Memory Beta is associated with licenced material so it's very much giving the impression that Stephanie Chaves-Jacobsen is the official Miranda Kadohata of the Trek novelverse,
No, it's not. It's like saying that a bunch of fans on a fan website have created a fan image of her as Kadohata because it's fun. That's all.

Memory Beta is a fan website, not an official website. It's "approved" by the Memory Beta community for inclusion in the article; that's all. It's not a CBS product. It's not an NBCUniversal product. It's just fans having fun.
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Old June 2 2014, 03:21 PM   #101
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I guess I have to change by expectations for MB, then.
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Old June 2 2014, 06:25 PM   #102
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Memory Beta also hosts this image (bare link here because the image is large), depicting Captain Rana Desai (ST:VGD).
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rana_Desai.jpg
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Old June 2 2014, 08:32 PM   #103
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Memory Beta also hosts this image (bare link here because the image is large), depicting Captain Rana Desai (ST:VGD).
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rana_Desai.jpg
Shouldn't she be wearing a gold uniform?
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Shouldn't she be wearing a gold uniform?
No, gold is for command. She's a JAG officer, like Areel Shaw, so she's in red.

(Then again, Philippa Louvois was in command red in the 24th century, wasn't she? I guess it's inconsistent.)
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Shouldn't she be wearing a gold uniform?
No, gold is for command. She's a JAG officer, like Areel Shaw, so she's in red.

(Then again, Philippa Louvois was in command red in the 24th century, wasn't she? I guess it's inconsistent.)
I figured since her rank is captain, she's wear Gold. If I recall, Sonya Gomez was a bit of trendsetter for wearing an Engineering Gold uniform when she was promoted to captain.

Then again, that was the 24th century, and her becoming captain actually involved a starship command. Perhaps it's different when you achieve the rank of captain but not technically in command of a ship?
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