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Old August 29 2013, 02:39 AM   #46
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Re: Alternative Factor - Worst Episode Ever?

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No one so far has mentioned "The Omega Glory," my nominee for worst ever. An idiotic mess of William Windom with trademark quivering face, laughable plot and mindless flag-waving. As Kirk explained it all for you at the end, "E plagnestum" ... or something.
No way The Omega Glory is even in the same ballpark.
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Old August 29 2013, 03:57 AM   #47
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No one so far has mentioned "The Omega Glory," my nominee for worst ever. An idiotic mess of William Windom with trademark quivering face, laughable plot and mindless flag-waving. As Kirk explained it all for you at the end, "E plagnestum" ... or something.
William Windom?! He's not even in the episode.
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Old August 29 2013, 06:09 AM   #48
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No one so far has mentioned "The Omega Glory," my nominee for worst ever. An idiotic mess of William Windom with trademark quivering face, laughable plot and mindless flag-waving. As Kirk explained it all for you at the end, "E plagnestum" ... or something.
William Windom?! He's not even in the episode.
Perhaps he's being confused with Morgan Woodward (who also appeared as Van Gelder in "Dagger of the Mind")?

And it's "E Pleb Neesta."
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Old August 29 2013, 04:49 PM   #49
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No one so far has mentioned "The Omega Glory," my nominee for worst ever. An idiotic mess of William Windom with trademark quivering face, laughable plot and mindless flag-waving. As Kirk explained it all for you at the end, "E plagnestum" ... or something.
No way The Omega Glory is even in the same ballpark.
I have to agree with BillJ here.
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Old August 29 2013, 06:14 PM   #50
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At least in OG you had some idea what was going on..Alternative Factor is just a lost mess.
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Old August 30 2013, 03:40 PM   #51
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At least in OG you had some idea what was going on..Alternative Factor is just a lost mess.
I followed The Alternative Factor just fine.

But then, I also followed City on the Edge of Forever just fine too, and THAT was a lost mess.....

Stupidest episode ever made. Alternative Factor was a masterpiece of biblical proportions compared to seeing William Shatner moon over Joan Collins.
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Old August 30 2013, 07:22 PM   #52
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At least in OG you had some idea what was going on..Alternative Factor is just a lost mess.
I followed The Alternative Factor just fine.

But then, I also followed City on the Edge of Forever just fine too, and THAT was a lost mess.....

Stupidest episode ever made. Alternative Factor was a masterpiece of biblical proportions compared to seeing William Shatner moon over Joan Collins.
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Old August 30 2013, 09:52 PM   #53
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At least in OG you had some idea what was going on..Alternative Factor is just a lost mess.
I'm with you. Once they were done it was completely confusing. I'm not even sure they knew which Lazarus was which at times.
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Old August 31 2013, 05:01 PM   #54
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At least in OG you had some idea what was going on..Alternative Factor is just a lost mess.
I followed The Alternative Factor just fine.

But then, I also followed City on the Edge of Forever just fine too, and THAT was a lost mess.....

Stupidest episode ever made. Alternative Factor was a masterpiece of biblical proportions compared to seeing William Shatner moon over Joan Collins.


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Old August 31 2013, 07:48 PM   #55
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But then, I also followed City on the Edge of Forever just fine too, and THAT was a lost mess.....

Stupidest episode ever made. Alternative Factor was a masterpiece of biblical proportions compared to seeing William Shatner moon over Joan Collins.
Sounds like Harlan Ellison is visiting the board.
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Old September 1 2013, 01:14 AM   #56
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But then, I also followed City on the Edge of Forever just fine too, and THAT was a lost mess.....

Stupidest episode ever made. Alternative Factor was a masterpiece of biblical proportions compared to seeing William Shatner moon over Joan Collins.
Sounds like Harlan Ellison is visiting the board.
Nah, Harlan would never be so circumspect.
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Old September 1 2013, 02:36 PM   #57
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But then, I also followed City on the Edge of Forever just fine too, and THAT was a lost mess.....

Stupidest episode ever made. Alternative Factor was a masterpiece of biblical proportions compared to seeing William Shatner moon over Joan Collins.
Sounds like Harlan Ellison is visiting the board.
Nah, Harlan would never be so circumspect.
The City on the Edge of Forever is one of my favorite episodes. I'm curious, did Mr. Ellison not like it?
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Old September 1 2013, 03:18 PM   #58
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Ellison wrote the original script, and (very vocally) hated the alterations that were made to the screenplay. His version had drug dealers on the Enterprise....
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Old September 2 2013, 05:54 PM   #59
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Ellison wrote the original script, and (very vocally) hated the alterations that were made to the screenplay. His version had drug dealers on the Enterprise....
Thanks, for the info. I don't think I would have liked that version.
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Old September 2 2013, 06:20 PM   #60
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Ellison wrote the original script, and (very vocally) hated the alterations that were made to the screenplay. His version had drug dealers on the Enterprise....
Thanks, for the info. I don't think I would have liked that version.
If you are so inclined and since it is your favorite episode; you should pick-up the book. It's pretty interesting and has several versions of the story included. Here is the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/City-Edge-Fore...dge+of+forever
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