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Old August 27 2013, 01:25 AM   #16
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Re: Endgame and the Unicomplex (spoilers)

Janeway goes back to get a Dodo... Captain Braxton stands there between she and the last Dodo arms folded with a disapproving scowl on his face.

2 whales are not going to bring back the species.

3 counting the kid.

Now either the Federation council sent back hundreds, perhaps thousands of more missions into the past to harvest more whales of several subspecies... Or they cloned the shit of all the detritus from the museums... Or even cloned all the whales from the past, rather than actually bringing them forward, because what if the whales never died out, but they all just jumped forward?

Point is... Man had the technology to revive any and all extinct species which they had dna for, and chose not to. They must have rules about playing god and dead is dead, because lets face it, if they're bringing back so many, many, many, many animals through cloning, how long until they start bringing back human celebrities as clones?

Slippery slope.

Although...

Terraforming.

Hundreds of planets by the end of the 23rd century would have been seeded with cloned Terranian wildlife including whales, surely?
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Old August 27 2013, 01:36 AM   #17
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Re: Endgame and the Unicomplex (spoilers)

Janeway, Borgarrays/buggerys, and giant probes. What's going on here?
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Old August 27 2013, 02:48 AM   #18
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It's why she can't wear a miniskirt.
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Old August 27 2013, 03:31 PM   #19
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I hate Temporal mecahnics.

But what should have happend is in the future starfleet would have monitored Janeway's escapdes and sent back people to undo her changes. After all VOY introduced the concept that in the future the Federation monitors the timeline so "Endgame" should never have happened and VOY should still be on her way home.
Except that they didn't. Which leads me to believe that in the Admiral's time line The Temporal Investigation department didn't exist. In other words the Admiral corrected the time line, and the case can be made using canon fact that even the Q meant Janeway to use that hub and in doing so cripple the Borg. Remember a couple of episodes earlier Q gave Janeway a course correction.
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Old August 27 2013, 04:12 PM   #20
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According to the novel DTI: Watching the Clock...
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I hate Temporal mecahnics.

But what should have happend is in the future starfleet would have monitored Janeway's escapdes and sent back people to undo her changes. After all VOY introduced the concept that in the future the Federation monitors the timeline so "Endgame" should never have happened and VOY should still be on her way home.
I hate them too. I always found the idea of Starfleet "time cops" to be rather silly myself, and I think real time travel - assuming it's possible - would require a lot more variables than the rather simplistic version we usually see. I think this was done well with the Krenim time ship in "Year of Hell," where Chakotay tried out some simulations and realized he could easily screw up a whole region by not factoring in the history of one element.
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