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View Poll Results: On What Would You Like A New Trek Series Based?
A Starship 38 65.52%
A Fleet 7 12.07%
A Station 2 3.45%
A Colony 7 12.07%
Other (please specify) 4 6.90%
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Old September 15 2013, 07:58 PM   #61
CorporalClegg
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Re: What Setting Would You Like For The Next Series?

nuBSG is shit. It's one of those shows that, while everyone raves about it now, no one will remember in 20 years.
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Old September 15 2013, 08:16 PM   #62
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Re: What Setting Would You Like For The Next Series?

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nuBSG is shit. It's one of those shows that, while everyone raves about it now, no one will remember in 20 years.
Wow, thanks for the insightful comment. Looks like you and BillJ were seriously traumatized by this series. What happened? I won't tell anyone...

Surprising to see such hate for this magnificent series. Did Ron Moore do something wrong? I thought DS9 was very popular on this board?
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Old September 15 2013, 10:32 PM   #63
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Re: What Setting Would You Like For The Next Series?

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Surprising to see such hate for this magnificent series. Did Ron Moore do something wrong? I thought DS9 was very popular on this board?
On DS9 (not my favorite series), Ron Moore was reined in by Ira-Steven Behr and Rick Berman. No one on BSG had authority over Moore and it showed.
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Old September 15 2013, 10:33 PM   #64
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Wow, thanks for the insightful comment. Looks like you and BillJ were seriously traumatized by this series. What happened? I won't tell anyone...
Traumatized? No. Bored out of my mind? Yes.
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Old September 19 2013, 01:23 AM   #65
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Wow, thanks for the insightful comment. Looks like you and BillJ were seriously traumatized by this series. What happened? I won't tell anyone...
The shaky cam made me throw-up.

Then I got bored.
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Old September 19 2013, 03:01 PM   #66
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The first episode would be the Admiral addressing all the captains of their missions. Later in a two-parter/season finale the fleet gathers to prevent an invasion or something. The series would end around an assault on another faction that plans to bring an end to the federation (the Dominion, or the Borg, or some new one) and the fleet we follow is met with other Admirals and their fleets for an all out battle. Sprinkle a few guest star/special appearance ship/fleet episodes, space station episodes, and a colony we catch up with time to time and you have a galactic Star Trek series (and a financial nightmare).
This and what Pocket Books has done to the 24th century with Destiny and The Typhon Pact books is one of the biggest reason I never want to go back to the Prime timeline.

I'm tired of wars and people killing each other non-stop in Star Trek. I can get that every single day on the news.

War and killings still make interesting themes in a TV show or movie, if thought out and executed well.

The problem with fannish ideas on this thread is war and killings is crudely used as an excuse for a new ship with the latest fandango phasers and increased warp factors.

Trek it seems is all about specmanship rather than story and adventure.
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Old September 19 2013, 05:14 PM   #67
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Re: What Setting Would You Like For The Next Series?

I know many didn't like early DS9, but, I really enjoyed getting to know the Bajorans, and all the Religious and Political backstabbing and shady deals (I really enjoyed this in Babylon 5 as well, though, not so much in the Star Wars Prequels).

So, that's what I'd like in a new Star Trek Series, is to get to know a new race, really, really well, inside and out, see they aren't mono-cultural and so on. Of course, I would like to see exploration and very "alien" Aliens as well, but, I'd like to get to really know a new race, and have quite a bit revolve around that. I'm not so fussed about if it's a Prequel or a Sequel or a Sidequel or Prime Universe or whatever. Just give me some exploring of the unknown, good characters, a little dark like DS9 or B5, (but, not hopeless and Dreary with nothing but detestable characters like early SGU and NuBSG)

I like the Abrams movies for what they are, but, of course a couple hours every few years will never be able to go into depth like a Series, no matter how harshly someone wants to judge them for them not doing so.
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Old September 21 2013, 05:20 AM   #68
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Re: What Setting Would You Like For The Next Series?

CorporalClegg wrote: View Post
nuBSG is shit. It's one of those shows that, while everyone raves about it now, no one will remember in 20 years.
nuBSG is great.
Maybe it doesn't make sense overall but a huge huge improvement on the original IMHO.

My stupid idea for a new series. Just add it to the list of stupid ideas:

Have a young rebel group in a ship going throughout the galaxy as a sort of group of anti-heros. Like a cool younger version of the Marquis. Maybe have a couple of Vulcan girls aboard (if nuTrek) trying to avoid having babies, maybe some Orion babes having escaped slavery.

Have our Starfleet heroes following this ship trying to capture them (for their own good).
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Old September 22 2013, 06:58 PM   #69
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So, that's what I'd like in a new Star Trek Series, is to get to know a new race, really, really well, inside and out, see they aren't mono-cultural and so on.
I agree! Curiously, after all those years of watching DS9 the actual sense of Bajoran culture remains a mystery to me. Partially I think because the whole premise remained their religion and the PTB (Powers That Be) steered clear of ever exploring what their religion entailed.

Yet the same series did a fine job of explaining/exploring the Cardassians and the Ferengi! Indeed, I ended up feeling more knowlegdable about the former than I do the Vulcans!

And give ENT credit for fleshing out the Andorians.
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Old September 22 2013, 07:01 PM   #70
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Have a young rebel group in a ship going throughout the galaxy as a sort of group of anti-heros. Like a cool younger version of the Marquis. Maybe have a couple of Vulcan girls aboard (if nuTrek) trying to avoid having babies, maybe some Orion babes having escaped slavery.

Have our Starfleet heroes following this ship trying to capture them (for their own good).
I like it! Have a little bit of trouble seeing where such a story can go, without really shaking things up, but I don't mind that!
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Old September 22 2013, 07:34 PM   #71
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Here's an idea.

STAR TREK: ASGARD

I'm not sure when exactly this would take place. Almost doesn't matter.

Asgard is a planet, Class M, with some unusual properties including some kind of interference with sensors. A group of Federation colonists have established themselves there, social dissidents of some kind. Perhaps they are a group who suffered some kind of trauma together? All are former Maquis or Maquis sympathizers and their families perhaps. Or (and this is really reaching outside the Box) they follow a quasi-religious movement. What makes this difficult is you'd have to actually define what that movement is, its beliefs, and hopefully not take the typical attitude of "all religion is rubbish" or "religion is just super-aliens misunderstood."

The point is, the Colonists are under the protection of the Federation and have to accept a Starfleet scientific outpost to help investigate the planet. It certainly has ruins dating back thousands and thousands of years. What happened to the inhabitants? One of many things Starfleet hopes to learn.

So you have an alien environment, initially rather low on the Federation's priorities, full of mystery and clues and potential dangers. And you have two groups of regulars not particularly at ease with one another, yet bound by location and shared culture.

Two things would seem to me essential:

The blend of characters would need careful consideration. In this btw nuBSG did an outstanding job. So too did Lost at its best and Fringe as well as some others. I'm imagining the two groups gradually growing closer through shared experiences. The great danger is falling into cliches. One way to avoid such is to simply go against type. Imagine a starfleet commanding officer with a distinct psychological resemblance to Garak! Or a Vulcan with the kind of angst demonstrated by B'Ellano Torres.

Second, the stakes would have to get progressively higher. As the secrets of Asgard reveal themselves, that should alter the situation of everyone significantly. Perhaps they'll find the original Asgardians are in cold sleep in caches dotted all over the planet--some destroyed, others damaged. Perhaps they accidentally created a plague that turned their offspring into nothing more than animals! Then again, perhaps they chose to do that to themselves for some reason. At the same time, the Federation and others might find themselves increasingly interested in Asgard, which creates a conflict between our regulars and newcomers.

I suspect Starfleet would put a small space station in orbit, with armed shuttles to protect the colony as well as provide top-level medical care and military-grade sensors. Not a huge place like Deep Space Nine or even Space Station K-7, rather an outpost of a couple of dozen people.

That's something I'd like to see.
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Old September 22 2013, 08:19 PM   #72
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Here's an idea.

STAR TREK: ASGARD

I'm not sure when exactly this would take place. Almost doesn't matter.

Asgard is a planet, Class M, with some unusual properties including some kind of interference with sensors. A group of Federation colonists have established themselves there, social dissidents of some kind. Perhaps they are a group who suffered some kind of trauma together? All are former Maquis or Maquis sympathizers and their families perhaps. Or (and this is really reaching outside the Box) they follow a quasi-religious movement. What makes this difficult is you'd have to actually define what that movement is, its beliefs, and hopefully not take the typical attitude of "all religion is rubbish" or "religion is just super-aliens misunderstood."

The point is, the Colonists are under the protection of the Federation and have to accept a Starfleet scientific outpost to help investigate the planet. It certainly has ruins dating back thousands and thousands of years. What happened to the inhabitants? One of many things Starfleet hopes to learn.

So you have an alien environment, initially rather low on the Federation's priorities, full of mystery and clues and potential dangers. And you have two groups of regulars not particularly at ease with one another, yet bound by location and shared culture.

Two things would seem to me essential:

The blend of characters would need careful consideration. In this btw nuBSG did an outstanding job. So too did Lost at its best and Fringe as well as some others. I'm imagining the two groups gradually growing closer through shared experiences. The great danger is falling into cliches. One way to avoid such is to simply go against type. Imagine a starfleet commanding officer with a distinct psychological resemblance to Garak! Or a Vulcan with the kind of angst demonstrated by B'Ellano Torres.

Second, the stakes would have to get progressively higher. As the secrets of Asgard reveal themselves, that should alter the situation of everyone significantly. Perhaps they'll find the original Asgardians are in cold sleep in caches dotted all over the planet--some destroyed, others damaged. Perhaps they accidentally created a plague that turned their offspring into nothing more than animals! Then again, perhaps they chose to do that to themselves for some reason. At the same time, the Federation and others might find themselves increasingly interested in Asgard, which creates a conflict between our regulars and newcomers.

I suspect Starfleet would put a small space station in orbit, with armed shuttles to protect the colony as well as provide top-level medical care and military-grade sensors. Not a huge place like Deep Space Nine or even Space Station K-7, rather an outpost of a couple of dozen people.

That's something I'd like to see.
i ditto that, it would be amazing to watch, i think it should be post nemesis, but 100 years post to it, then it will be amazing, a really good get to know you show as it were. Really having a in depth character development show, some political struggles and great discovery series.
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Old September 22 2013, 10:06 PM   #73
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Here's what I've been developing in my head for a while. The year would be 2454. The federation has weakened due to a vague connection to STO and the destruction of Romulus. Most people are aware of the past captains, much like people today are familiar with Washington and Jefferson. Kirk and Picard are the most well known, but most people don't really know much about them and the connection to the past is not heavily emphasized.

Starfleet has developed the ability to create an artificial wormhole that can carry a ship to another galaxy. Probes were sent first, but now Starfleet has decided to send an explorer ship and a secondary scout ship with hopes of finding a planet to colonize. Also, the ships are charged with the regular mission to seek out new life and new civilizations.

The ship would be in contact with Starfleet, but Starfleet would give the ship's captain more autonomy.

To answer the question, I'd like to see a combination of a main ship, a colony eventually established, a space station and eventually a caravan of ships.
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Old September 22 2013, 10:45 PM   #74
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In the end I would just be happy to have a new series on tv.

Beats these last 2 rubbish movies
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Old September 23 2013, 01:13 AM   #75
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I want a series set up maybe 15 or 20 years after DS9 ended, but in the Abrams-verse. In this universe, (because of the comic where the Narada was upgraded with Borg technology), somehow the Borg are advanced and SUPER scary. The Dominion somehow are more advanced, too. Our heroes are on a small, junky ship (like Serenity), trying to stay off the Dominion's radar and away from assimilation. We find one of Guinan's people, an El-Aurian, who knows the timeline is different, we view her as an oracle, and the show goes from there to find clues and fix the timeline. Bam!
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