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Old August 28 2013, 12:46 AM   #46
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Obviously, Warped9 used an image of Bain as she appeared in the mid 1960s, some 8 or 9 years before her appearance in the Gerry Anderson series. Logically, she'd look younger.

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Yes, the image is from a first season Mission: Impossible episode which was in production concurrently with TOS.
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Old August 30 2013, 03:41 AM   #47
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Data is the default Science Officer. Admiral Quinn was right when those Conspiracy creatures wouldn't like him, since they couldn't take over his body, and plus if a host tried even they would get beat up.
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Old August 30 2013, 05:26 AM   #48
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Good for Memory Alpha. It isn't supported by on-screen evidence, though.
The basis might be that he was frequently shown using bridge science stations which were not manned by officers from the science division, or anyone else.
Perhaps. Still doesn't make him a sciences officer, though. We saw Worf occasionally man those stations, and he definitely was not a science officer.
I don't recall ever seeing very many science officers on the bridge of the Enterprise-D.
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Old August 30 2013, 04:54 PM   #49
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I don't recall ever seeing very many science officers on the bridge of the Enterprise-D.
Neither did I.
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Old August 31 2013, 01:09 AM   #50
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I've always assumed any blueshirt we see on the bridge are science officers. One might even be the Chief Science Officer. Spock being the XO probably created a unique situation where the CSO was on the bridge a majority of the time.
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Old August 31 2013, 03:28 AM   #51
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I've always assumed any blueshirt we see on the bridge are science officers. One might even be the Chief Science Officer. Spock being the XO probably created a unique situation where the CSO was on the bridge a majority of the time.
I always thought Spock handled both roles. I thought he had been referred to as Science Officer Spock somewhere during the TOS run?

Or am I misreading your post? I did take a couple valium a little while ago...
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Old August 31 2013, 04:29 AM   #52
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I've always assumed any blueshirt we see on the bridge are science officers. One might even be the Chief Science Officer. Spock being the XO probably created a unique situation where the CSO was on the bridge a majority of the time.
I always thought Spock handled both roles. I thought he had been referred to as Science Officer Spock somewhere during the TOS run?

Or am I misreading your post? I did take a couple valium a little while ago...
Yeah you are. To be clear: Spock being XO and CSO probably isn't standard operating procedure. The only reason he manned the Science station so often was he was on the Bridge as XO. My feeling is on most ships the CSO is down in the labs and a junior officer mans the Science station on the Bridge.
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Old August 31 2013, 04:49 AM   #53
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I'm pretty sure Spock was referred to as Science Officer at least on one or two occasions in TOS.
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Old August 31 2013, 04:58 AM   #54
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Yes, he is Science Officer. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise.
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Old August 31 2013, 02:58 PM   #55
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Barbara Baine was quite a stunner in her youth.
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Old August 31 2013, 03:09 PM   #56
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Barbara Baine was quite a stunner in her youth.
No kidding. I'm presently rewatching Mission: Impossible and I'm just a couple of episodes into Season 2. Yeah, she was a looker. It's amusing to see so many smoking in the shows including the women and yet I can see how if someone smoked enough (and maybe drank as well) it could take its toll on one's looks.

Not to get too far off topic, but rewatching this show re-affirms to me how smart it was to get Peter Graves replacing Steven Hill. Graves just had more screen presence, likability and range while Hill seemed rather stiff. It's somewhat analogous to Star Trek replacing Jeffery Hunter with William Shatner. Graves, like Shatner, brought more vitality to the screen. I also find some interesting parallels/connections with Star Trek. Just as Star Trek was out to do science fiction straight so was Mission: Impossible out to do the spy genre in similar fashion. They were two very smart shows (coming out of the same studio, Desilu) at the same time. And both executive producers---Gene Roddenberry and Bruce Geller---gave their respective higher-ups headaches. Also listening to the music it often sounds like some of the same people were writing music for both series and perhaps using the same orchestra. One thing you can't escape noticing is how many guest characters appeared on both shows---this was not happenstance. The casting guy hired at Desilu found a way to save money by offering many of the guest actors a package deal for them to appear on two or three episodes for a set fee rather than be paid by a per episode basis. This meant that they could appear on either Star Trek and/or Mission: Impossible in short order. This gave the actors added exposure while allowing to Desilu to save some money.
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Old September 1 2013, 03:42 PM   #57
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Re the smoking - despite being awed by Baine's beauty in early eps, I was also occasionally repulsed when she blew whopping great billows of smoke thru her nostrils. And one can't help but notice how stained her teeth were when she smiled.
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Re the smoking - despite being awed by Baine's beauty in early eps, I was also occasionally repulsed when she blew whopping great billows of smoke thru her nostrils. And one can't help but notice how stained her teeth were when she smiled.
Yeah, watching M:I now on DVD on a 55in. screen some things jump out at you. As for Bain's smoking, hell, seems everyone smoked back then and no one would have paid attention to it. Today, though, it seems just so weird.

One shtick in M:I is all the affected faux accents particularly Eastern European or South American. Just watched the 2nd Season two-parter episode "The Slave" about the slave trade in a predominantly Muslim fictitious Middle East country. Man, I doubt you'd see anyone try doing that kind of episode today.
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Old September 2 2013, 08:49 AM   #59
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Spock being XO and CSO probably isn't standard operating procedure. The only reason he manned the Science station so often was he was on the Bridge as XO. My feeling is on most ships the CSO is down in the labs and a junior officer mans the Science station on the Bridge.
Not so sure about that. Note that their isn't a seat on the bridge for an XO to sit... so it stands to reason that some bridge officer--senior helmsman, senior navigator, science officer, etc. also doubles as the XO.
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Spock being XO and CSO probably isn't standard operating procedure. The only reason he manned the Science station so often was he was on the Bridge as XO. My feeling is on most ships the CSO is down in the labs and a junior officer mans the Science station on the Bridge.
Not so sure about that. Note that their isn't a seat on the bridge for an XO to sit... so it stands to reason that some bridge officer--senior helmsman, senior navigator, science officer, etc. also doubles as the XO.
Wouldn't need to be a seat for the XO on the bridge. If an XO is doing his job, he's going to be elsewhere the majority of the time. And he'd use the command chair when it was his turn to stand watch on the bridge.
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