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Old August 21 2013, 11:02 PM   #16
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Re: The least disliked episode of VOY - Season Five

Removing "Someone to Watch Over Me". As if anyone would remember a Gershwin song title. Also removing Latent Image, as it was previously mentioned.

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Old August 21 2013, 11:03 PM   #17
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"Dark Frontier, Part II" It has it moments but ST multi-part stores tend to be great at the start with the conclusion not quite measuring up. Besides some of the other episodes have those character moments which I prefer.

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Old August 21 2013, 11:21 PM   #18
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Dang, Latent Image keeps popping back into the lists due to cross posts.
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Old August 21 2013, 11:32 PM   #19
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Still a lot of tempting targets left, but I will eliminate In The Flesh.

WHY would they do an episode about a species totally unlike humans but give them all human form? They didn't even come up with a good excuse to do it. Why would Species 8472 think of doing the whole Soviet Russia Americatown thing? They don't need to infiltrate Earth when it looks like any one of them can lay waste to a city at will. The premise doesn't make sense and they nerfed their own super-powerful aliens.

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Old August 22 2013, 12:03 AM   #20
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Relativity... while it's funny that the whole time police agency is POed at Janeway's time travel antics, this episode is just a cluster.... of random time travel nonsense. To say nothing of the concept of arresting someone for "crimes they will commit" just seems downright nasty.

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Old August 22 2013, 12:04 AM   #21
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One or two of my faves have dropped. I'll take out Bride of Chaotica! for not being fun enough.

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Old August 22 2013, 12:10 AM   #22
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"Equinox, Part I". I got the impression that the caretaker usually sent the ships back home after he had done his experiments on the crew of those ships. Yet here we have another starfleet ship, one has to question why try again with the same species. PLus if the caretaker didn't send ships back we could have had other races from the AQ/BQ or even DQ that we were familiar with.

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Old August 22 2013, 12:21 AM   #23
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"Bliss" goes blissfully away. Great guest star, but it's just a revamp of aliens make crew see things that aren't there, dating back to "The Cage".

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Old August 22 2013, 12:24 AM   #24
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I'm not a big fan of Warhead really. It shouldn't be here ahead of others that have been cut up to now.

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Old August 22 2013, 01:02 AM   #25
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Well this "Juggernaut" has been brought to a stand still. The other episodes are just stronger.


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Old August 22 2013, 01:46 AM   #26
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Drone - so just because some Borg nanoprobes came into contact with the mobile emitter, it creates a "29th century Borg", um how? Where did the genetic material for the organic parts come from? This is about as contrived as Nuclear Man being born in Superman IV.

It would just be a Borg that happens to incorporate technology for a holographic emitter, not "29th century everything". Plus, the mobile emitter isn't from the 29th century, it's from the 20th century. It was created by Buddy Holly from reverse engineering Braxton's time ship, just like every piece of computer technology on Earth from the 1960s onward, according to Voyager writers.

You'd think the Voyager crew would reverse engineer the mobile emitter to improve their own technology, but nope.

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Old August 22 2013, 01:47 AM   #27
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Timeless and Counterpoint are awesome, Infinite Regress and Drone are decent. That leaves Dark Frontier (I).

Dark Frontier completely changed the tone of the Borg by giving them a face and making them all about negotiation and threats and not just about ruthless, efficient assimilation. It also marked the beginning of their obscene overuse and set the precedent for Voyager to be able to fight and win against Borg ships.

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Old August 22 2013, 02:13 AM   #28
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Drone . . .Where did the genetic material for the organic parts come from?
Ensign Mulcahey. B'Elanna had taken the emitter to a science lab to work on it. Left unattended, the emitter generated tubules to tap into the ship's computer. When Mulcahey walked by, he came closer to investigate, and the emitter sent a tubule into him to get a DNA sample. He survived and appeared in later episodes.

The odd thing to me is that they didn't use guest star J. Paul Boehmer as some non descript crewman to be the victim. At least he could have shown his normal face that way.
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Old August 22 2013, 02:15 AM   #29
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Ah ok. My point still stands that it's too much like Nuclear Man.
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Old August 22 2013, 05:52 AM   #30
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Infinite Regress - split personality Borg-style... I've seen better Seven-episodes.

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