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Old August 24 2013, 04:01 PM   #46
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

I pulled out my Star Trek sketchbook last night, and poured through the designing the Enterprise section. I found a sketch by Mr. Jefferies of a clearly near-complete Enterprise design that laid out the design/serial schema for 17-01 (and included A as an addendum for the first major refit.) The drawing isn't dated, but it's clearly by Mr. Jefferies and does indeed seem to come from early in the series. So, it does appear this was the initial intention; NCC meant Federation, the first number pair indicated which design the ship was, and the second pair indicated the ship's place in the series.

Slightly further OT, but I just had the thought: to truly distinguish the Enterprise and Constellation, why didn't they use another design? They could have come up with some sort of kitbash from the AMT kit.

The answer, I suppose, is rather obvious: production intended the Constellation to represent a ship of the same (apparent) class as the Enterprise. If they'd wanted her to be another class, she would have been. Having her be the same class probably provided the best sense of awe for the power of the Planet Killer, provided a real sense of danger to the Enterprise, and, from a production standpoint, was easiest.

I suppose, then, with these two pieces of evidence, the only logical conclusion is that Mr. Jefferies wasn't the one to put the Constellation together and put the decals on, and may've been annoyed when he saw it.

OTOH, Mr. Jefferies may have seen fit that Federation cruiser designs did not change in overall outward appearance much between Designs 10 and 17, at least to 20th century eyes.
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Old August 24 2013, 04:16 PM   #47
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

^Not sure he would've been annoyed. As an art director in series television, he must've long since come to terms with the fact that he was not a sole auteur and that his suggestions were subject to revision by the people who employed him. Just because he conceived the idea that the "17" represented a specific class, that doesn't mean he expected all his colleagues to bow to his will. After all, he was an employee, not the boss.
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Old August 24 2013, 10:44 PM   #48
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

Herkimer Jitty wrote: View Post
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P.S. "Connie" = nickname for the Lockheed Constellation plane and the US Navy aircraft carrier USS Constellation.
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Darn, you noticed! But I'm not yet ready to post my thread what I do think of using the nickname "Connie" for - the Enterprise?

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