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Old August 21 2013, 06:03 PM   #1
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Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

We've heard the "USS," as in USS Enterprise, explained on screen on more than one occasion as "united space ship" or "united starship." Has any character in actual on-screen dialogue, or in an on-screen written reference such as computer display, explained what "NCC" stands for in Starfleet context? Offhand, I can't think of any such reference.

Of course, we know that in real life, "NC" was used in the prefixes of airplane numbers that Matt Jeffries and Gene Roddenberry were familiar with from the military, and that Jeffries simply added an additional "C." But has there ever been an in-universe explanation?
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Old August 21 2013, 06:09 PM   #2
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

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We've heard the "USS," as in USS Enterprise, explained on screen on more than one occasion as "united space ship" or "united starship." Has any character in actual on-screen dialogue, or in an on-screen written reference such as computer display, explained what "NCC" stands for in Starfleet context? Offhand, I can't think of any such reference.

Of course, we know that in real life, "NC" was used in the prefixes of airplane numbers that Matt Jeffries and Gene Roddenberry were familiar with from the military, and that Jeffries simply added an additional "C." But has there ever been an in-universe explanation?
There are plenty of real-world explanations floating around, I'm not sure if any of them are true.
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Old August 21 2013, 06:10 PM   #3
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

Nope. Never explained onscreen.
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Old August 21 2013, 06:21 PM   #4
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

No, although it seems obvious NCC represents the standard registry code, given most Starfleet starships use it with the rare exception of NX for experimental and NAR for civilian ships. But no, it's never been explained what these letters mean. For more information, click here.
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Old August 21 2013, 06:41 PM   #5
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

Never explained on-screen. A popular theory is that NCC stands for "Naval Commissioning Code", a theory which was given some lip service by one of the writers on the commentary track of the 2009 movie. But it's never been stated or shown in an actual episode or movie (as far as I'm aware).
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Old August 21 2013, 06:49 PM   #6
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

According to the original 1975 Star Fleet Technical Manual and USS Enterprise Booklet of General Plans by Franz Joseph Schnaubelt, it stands for "Naval Construction Contract". This also cropped up in the novel Dreadnought! by Diane Carey.

But if you wanna go strictly by TV/film Trek, then: No.
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Old August 21 2013, 07:26 PM   #7
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NCC stands for Nuclear Cosmological Craft.

Cosmology means; The study of the formation and nature of the universe.
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Old August 21 2013, 07:59 PM   #8
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A popular theory is that NCC stands for "Naval Commissioning Code", a theory which was given some lip service by one of the writers on the commentary track of the 2009 movie. But it's never been stated or shown in an actual episode or movie (as far as I'm aware).
I've heard "Naval Construction Contract" for decades, and I've occasionally heard "Navigational Contact Code" as an alternative. I don't think I've ever heard "Naval Commissioning Code" before.
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Old August 21 2013, 08:03 PM   #9
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Here are the various registry variants I've collected over the years. A couple have appeared on-screen, but most are fan-made:
  • NCC ------- Naval Construction Contract
  • NCC-FXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/Freighter-Tender
  • NCC-SXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/Support Vessel
  • NCC-GXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/General Use
  • NX -------- Naval Experiment
  • NCO ------- Naval Construction Order (For Alternate-Federation Vessels)
  • NDT ------- Naval Detached Transport
  • NSP ------- Naval Science Program
  • NSX ------- Naval SpecialOps Experiment
  • SNC ------- Shi'ar Naval Contract
  • Q --------- Intelligence "Q-Ship"
  • C --------- Contract # (For pre-Federation Vessels)
  • DT -------- Designated Tactical Vessel
  • FCC ------- Fleet Command Crusier
  • FF -------- Frigate Flagship/Fast Frigate
  • FR -------- Freighter (For pre-Federation Vessels)
  • L --------- Luxury/Civilian
  • G --------- General Use
  • SFDD ------ Starfleet Drydock
  • TP -------- Travel Pod Registry
  • NAR ------- Naval Auxiliary Resource/Research
  • NAK ------- Naval Auxiliary Resource - Merchant Marine/Logistics
  • NFT ------- Non-Federation Transport
  • NGL ------- Non-Starfleet General-Purpose Liner
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Old August 21 2013, 11:30 PM   #10
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In light of the prefix variants that are canonically witnessed, it would seem that the N in them might stand for "Federation". That is, NFT, NGL, NAR, NSP and NCC are all witnessed in connection with Federation vessels, and that's about the only thing in common between them.

It would then appear to follow that "CC" means "Starfleet active service" and "X" means "experimental or prototype"; the other letters don't have such systematic or clear-cut correlation to any observable characteristic...

Two other apparent registry prefixes are BTR for a colony ship in DS9 "Paradise", and YLT for an Yridian craft in "Birthright". The former hauled Federation colonists, but that need not invalidate the "N = Federation" model as such - after all, the latter hauled a Klingon Starfleet officer holding Federation citizenship!

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Old August 22 2013, 10:28 PM   #11
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

I've imagined NCC to be "New Construction Code" to distinguish it from the more maritime sounding "Naval."
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Old August 22 2013, 10:34 PM   #12
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NCC = No Canon Connotation
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Old August 23 2013, 04:41 AM   #13
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Never explained on-screen. A popular theory is that NCC stands for "Naval Commissioning Code", a theory which was given some lip service by one of the writers on the commentary track of the 2009 movie.
I recall they said it was "Navy Civil Catalogue". It flows well with what The Star Trek Encyclopedia says about it: "N" is for Navy, and "C" means "Civil"--that is, non-military.
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Old August 23 2013, 05:28 AM   #14
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Which edition of the Encyclopedia was that?
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Old August 23 2013, 06:14 AM   #15
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Re: Has "NCC" Ever Been Explained On Screen?

I've of the opinion that the letters don't actually STAND for anything, as is the case with postal codes (the Canadian equivalent of zip codes, for those who don't know).

Now Star Trek hasn't been 100% consistent on this, but my assumption is this:

NCC = Operational Starfleet vessel.

NX = Experimental Starfleet vessel prototype not yet cleared for active service. Homage to the NX-class ships that served in the mid-22nd Century.

NAR = Non-Starfleet Federation vessel. (Unclear if this is used government vessels, civilian vessels, or both). It may only apply to vessels operated by humans, since non-Starfleet Vulcan ships like the T'Pau had a registry that began with NSP. (Perhaps there's a different registry for vessels operated by each member race, i.e. Andorians, Tellarites, Betazoids, etc.)

Not sure we'll ever get a sensible explanation of what the USS is. Yes, I know they may have said "United Space Ship" or "United Star Ship" at some point, but what exactly is united about it? Like the concept of no money and of synthehol, it may be best not to look at that too closely.
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