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Old August 18 2013, 03:25 AM   #16
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

The biggest flaw is the lag-time between the Captain's brain and the Conn's hands.

Captain's brain > Captain's mouth > Conn's ears > Conn's brain > Conn's hands.
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Old August 18 2013, 03:49 AM   #17
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

That's a design flaw in about every ship in the Trek universe. Really just a plot device so the audience knows what the ship is doing even if there's not a visual shot.
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Old August 18 2013, 04:56 AM   #18
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

Lt. Uhura-Brown wrote: View Post
The biggest flaw is the lag-time between the Captain's brain and the Conn's hands.

Captain's brain > Captain's mouth > Conn's ears > Conn's brain > Conn's hands.


Brain implants are clearly the answer. Cut out that middle-man.
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Old August 18 2013, 04:57 AM   #19
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

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You just advocated for the Borg Collective.
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Old August 18 2013, 05:08 AM   #20
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Resistance IS futile. Who knew?
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Old August 18 2013, 01:53 PM   #21
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

Lt. Uhura-Brown wrote: View Post
The biggest flaw is the lag-time between the Captain's brain and the Conn's hands.

Captain's brain > Captain's mouth > Conn's ears > Conn's brain > Conn's hands.
Consider fully half of that takes nanoseconds to occur that's not much of a timelag.
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Old August 18 2013, 06:22 PM   #22
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"Fully half"? The brain>mouth (or alternately the mouth>ears) thing includes the phrasing of the order, which takes aeons, and the brain>hands (or alternately the ears>brain) part includes figuring out what the order actually meant - plus, usually, wasting time with something like "Sure deal, boss!" that detracts from the handiwork. I'd say the nanoseconds part is more like one-third of the needlessly long chain at most.

Then again, it doesn't appear to matter. Whenever the skipper says "On my mark", things that realistically ought to call for split-second accuracy are nevertheless achieved. Perhaps the helmsman anticipates and ignores the "mark" altogether, relying instead on a computerized timer he sets according to the skipper's actual intentions?

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Old August 20 2013, 03:27 AM   #23
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I don't know about you but I don't take much longer than a second or two to formulate things I'm going to say to people. If it takes longer than that you may have a severe brain injury/disability.
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Old August 20 2013, 04:51 AM   #24
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When you compare how long it takes between thinking about pressing a button and pressing it, verbally telling someone else to press the button for you takes aeons in comparison between your thought and their hands.
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Old August 20 2013, 11:58 AM   #25
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I don't know about you but I don't take much longer than a second or two to formulate things I'm going to say to people.
Yet actually saying them (which is either the brain>mouth or the mouth>ears part) does take several seconds, unless it's a simple "Fire!". And it's not as if Kirk or Picard chooses to use the shortest possible phrasing, either. Which both extends the output time, and makes it more difficult for the listener to decipher the input.

That's hardly the most damning fault in the practice, though. The worst time-hog is the skipper's need to micromanage the use of weapons. In most situations, he or she has a dedicated weapons officer available to control the weapons systems, and he or she in turn supposedly has underlings next to the actual weapons. The skipper's role thus should really be just "take down all of them" or "take out their propulsion", not "prepare forward photon torpedoes - target their engines - on my mark, fire - fire!".

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Old August 20 2013, 05:40 PM   #26
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I was always dissapointed with lack of lactation rooms, ball pits and bidets...
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Old August 20 2013, 08:07 PM   #27
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Re: Have the Galaxy Class got a fatal design flaw?

Obviously the command delay was a problem, hence admiral Janeway's Synaptic Interface in 'Endgame'.
Warp Core ejection seems to be a problem in most Starfleet vessels- IIRC it has only worked twice- in Voyager (once) and Star Trek: Insurrection.
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Old August 22 2013, 01:45 PM   #28
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Warp Core ejection seems to be a problem in most Starfleet vessels- IIRC it has only worked twice- in Voyager (once) and Star Trek: Insurrection.
Also in Star Trek (2009).
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Old August 22 2013, 01:58 PM   #29
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I was limiting things to the prime universe since the tech tree in the new movies is totally different- same names but different approaches in execution
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Old August 24 2013, 03:19 PM   #30
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Warp Core ejection seems to be a problem in most Starfleet vessels- IIRC it has only worked twice- in Voyager (once) and Star Trek: Insurrection.
Also in Star Trek (2009).
Well, that last one made up for it in numbers.
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